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Jayru (JSnaith's) 3D Trek

Mage said:
So, the shuttlebay got me thinking....

In the novels, B'elanna at one point designs and build a Delta Flyer/Runabout sized shuttle/ship that is slipstream capable. I can see this ship, fully slipstream capable, also being a testbed for the SCE to develop a slipstream capable support ship, like the Flyer.
I know I already suggested the executive shuttle, so I feel really bad about this. But perhaps a side project after this entire ship is done?
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This ship is already supporting an enhanced warp drive system (the angled nacelles) and slipstream... The class is indeed a testbed... I do plan to design a brand new shuttle based on the same tech with angled nacelles as well... So... We are thinking along the same lines ;)

I was thinking the shuttles would be able to make short slipstream jumps - seconds, not minutes. But a short jump could mean a long distance, and with the enhanced warp propulsion system being more power efficient, the shuttles would be a bit more long range. Hind-brain is working up some concepts, nothing to share yet. Must get the main ship done first!

Still enjoying, so don't worry - overload/burnout is not an issue. Ideas are always good :techman:
 
Lol, can't stop - so this is the last render of today -

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Hanger bay done and locked. Windows into the control room are a little too reflective, but that's an easy fix. Spots lights, and then item one off that list is done and I will move on to the Navigational Deflectors :techman:

Comments, thoughts and the like welcome. More tomorrow!
 
.. so I come back after a day or so and we're three pages further down the line/design.. :wtf: anyway, nice work as always. :techman:
 
Santaman said:
.. so I come back after a day or so and we're three pages further down the line/design.. :wtf: anyway, nice work as always. :techman:
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Thank you - if it helps, I'm hyper focused on this one. But in terms of updates... Busy this morning with appointments, so their won't be any until this afternoon. I figure I'll get the spot-lights placed, which will lock the mesh proper. Then I can start work on building the various nav deflector ideas I have and see which sits the best. So I'm close to ticking the first item off my list:
  1. Finish the mesh proper, rooms, shuttle bay, spot lights.
  2. Work on navigational deflector ideas - have three so far.
  3. Self lighting rig.
  4. Look at adding an executive/plugin shuttle for the dorsal surface - OR - additional detail on upper bay.
  5. New shuttle type.
  6. MSD style cutaway of the Horizon.
  7. Dedication plaque for the Horizon.
More this-afternoon!
 
Finished sooner than I thought I would (appointment wise), so back at the mesh -

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Three nav deflector ideas already, trying to see if I come up with any more. I know which I like, but what do you all think?

Comment away...

Oh yes!
  1. Finish the mesh proper, rooms, shuttle bay, spot lights. <DONE
  2. Work on navigational deflector ideas - have three so far.
  3. Self lighting rig.
  4. Look at adding an executive/plugin shuttle for the dorsal surface - OR - additional detail on upper bay.
  5. New shuttle type.
  6. MSD style cutaway of the Horizon.
  7. Dedication plaque for the Horizon.
 
What about something like the Defiant's deflector? With the more subtle lines for the patterns and the thicker criss-cross overpiece that separates it? That could probably be explained better, sorry :D
All your designs look cool, however to my eyes, they also look very busy and crowded - but on the flipside, the 'TNG simple' one looks too plain.
My personal faves are the 'Intrepid evolved' (does the deflector remain expanded or does it open up for slipstream velocities?) and the 'Dauntless inspired'.
 
Orbing Master said:
What about something like the Defiant's deflector? With the more subtle lines for the patterns and the thicker criss-cross overpiece that separates it? That could probably be explained better, sorry :D
All your designs look cool, however to my eyes, they also look very busy and crowded - but on the flipside, the 'TNG simple' one looks too plain.
My personal faves are the 'Intrepid evolved' (does the deflector remain expanded or does it open up for slipstream velocities?) and the 'Dauntless inspired'.
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I know the design you mean. I'll have a look at it tomorrow. A variation of it could work.

They are all static designs ;-)

Thanks for the feedback :-)
 
JSnaith said:
Thank you for the feedback :-)

The following might help -
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Still very much liking option 6 when it's actually mounted on the ship. I'm glad you didn't go with a vertical-lined Zheng-He option. For some reason, that design always looked epically wrong to me. In any case, it's your build, you do what you want to do.
 
1, 4 and 6 really work for me.

5 isn't too bad but I've been staring at my PC monitor all morning and it's making my eyes go woogly
 
137th Gebirg said:
Still very much liking option 6 when it's actually mounted on the ship. I'm glad you didn't go with a vertical-lined Zheng-He option. For some reason, that design always looked epically wrong to me. In any case, it's your build, you do what you want to do.
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6... is close for me, but needs more development work I think. It's not sitting quite right - yet.

My other half has been looking over my shoulder whilst I rendered up the options and told me what they liked, lol. But yes, ultimately I have to make a decision :wtf:


ashleytinger said:
1, 4 and 6 really work for me.

5 isn't too bad but I've been staring at my PC monitor all morning and it's making my eyes go woogly
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Woogly eyes... I like that phrase. Although after this mornings stint working on all this, I feel the same way!

Thank you both for your feedback. It all helps ;)
 
One from the other half (see, I do let other people play with the meshes sometimes...) -

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Sovereign Inspired! I can see where they are looking to go with this idea, and how to refine it... But... it's lacking something. Meh, it might grow on me.

Ok, going to leave the deflectors alone whilst I cogitate on what to do going forward and jump to the next logical item on the list -

  1. Finish the mesh proper, rooms, shuttle bay, spot lights. <DONE
  2. Work on navigational deflector ideas. <IN PROGRESS
  3. Self lighting rig.
  4. Look at adding an executive/plugin shuttle for the dorsal surface - OR - additional detail on upper bay.
  5. New shuttle type.
  6. MSD style cutaway of the Horizon.
  7. Dedication plaque for the Horizon.
Item 4 - why skip 3? Because the lighting rig is dependant on which style of Nav Deflector I go with. So I will come back to that.

So...

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The best way to fill; this space. 3 options -

  1. Executive Shuttle of some kind.
  2. Extra Sensor Pallets.
  3. Leave it alone.
Options 1 & 2 are the preferred way forward.

> Option 1: to fit a plugin shuttle I would need to move the shield grid. I keep iterative saves, so it is possible to wind the clock back to before I built the grid in on that section and change it up. My hind-brain has come up with some interesting designs, including something that is reminiscent of the flying sub from the Seaview, from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. In terms of how it would all fit together with the location of the upper warp core, it could be wiggled in and the core pushed back a little further.

> Option 2: adding extra sensor pallets, either side would also work and tie in with the rest of the design. This would increase the number of exposed pallets on the dorsal surface from three to five, which is maybe not such a bad idea. No additional work would be needed in changing the shield grid on that part of the ship, the pallets could be tailored to fit the existing space.

Sigh

I need to stop my other half looking over my shoulder when I type these messages - as they have pointed out, why can't I do both? Yes they are right. But for Spock's Sake, I would like to finish this one, and not turn it into a never ending project. Excuse me whilst I bite there head off...

Ok, so anyways I'm going to break for lunch and play around with both options and see which works better. Maybe doing both is the way forward.

More later.
 
BK613 said:
Curious to see what the thin lines of this one looks like behind 1's "triptych".
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If you are referring to the "Sovereign Inspired" one the better half did, then there is no geometry behind it, all one piece. But I will have a play.

In terms of item 4 off my list;

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Went ahead and added more sensor pallets, so -

  1. Finish the mesh proper, rooms, shuttle bay, spot lights. <DONE
  2. Work on navigational deflector ideas. <IN PROGRESS
  3. Self lighting rig. <ON HOLD
  4. Look at adding an executive/plugin shuttle for the dorsal surface - OR - additional detail on upper bay. <DONE
  5. New shuttle type.
  6. MSD style cutaway of the Horizon.
  7. Dedication plaque for the Horizon.
Not everyone will be pleased with some of the choices I'm going to make, but... Yeah, I have to be happy. I am listening folks, and I have done some of the things suggested, but as the old saying goes - the buck stops here. Swinging back to item 2 this afternoon.

Comments always welcome, more soon!
 
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