Jake Sisko - Completely Unlikeable

Although "in the cards" is one of my favorite episodes, I couldn't believe how he pressured Nog into spending his life savings on a stupid baseball card. That's some peer pressure your parents warn you about.

 

Interesting take. I do not agree.

 

Pressuring Nog to spend his money on the card was rude and inappropriate but exactly the sort of misbehavior that's typical of teens... seeing the immediate problem and an immediate solution without seeing the long-term breach of trust that immediate solution could create. Jake is lucky it didn't end up driving wedge between them. But Jake is an adolescent, if he never made any adolescent mistakes he'd have trouble being a believable character -- like Wesley Crusher.

 

I enjoyed the character. First we were about the same age. Also I liked Star Trek showing a human character who was not in Star Fleet.

 

I wasn't common practice for kids to be wunderkinds on Star Trek; Wesley was one of a kind. There's was nothing to indicate Jake or Nog would join Star fleet until season 3 where the producers shift gears and started having an interest in Nog while Jake slowly pushed to the sidelines.

 

Even Wesley was a pain in the ass for me.

 

Wesley was annoying because of the annoying "kid saves the ship" trope. Jake, Nog, and Naomi showed us that the lesson was learned.

 

Pretty much all the kids in the various Trek series have been annoying. The only one I really liked of the bunch was Nog.

 

I've never found Jake annoying at all. He's just a normal teenager.

 

This. He and Nog and Bashir were all young characters at the beginning of their assorted journeys, who grew and changed as the series evolved.

 

Or for Bashir, he pretended to be annoying to cover his b.s. genetically altered make up.

 

As a youngster, Jake was more relatable since he was more of a regular adolescent who wanted to do his own idealistic thing and become a writer, instead of a Starfleet rocket scientist. And his spelling was terrible. And even though he had a lot of potential, he didn't instantly becoming a critically acclaimed novelist or something. Instead he ended up being a correspondent for the Federation Propog-- I mean, News Service.

Kor

 

There were episodes on TNG where Wesley presented himself as a youngster and had idealistic ambitions; there are many children who wants to go to the military because their parents had done so.

 

Which episodes were those?

 

I don't think he was pretending. If he was really so superior it should have been easy for him to make himself likeable so as to have more influence, if he wanted to. Pay attention to your friends' cues that they are getting tired of your nonstop monologue...

 

I was making a snide remark. I personally hated the revelation of Bashir being a Khan type super-doctor from the war seasons of DS9.

 

I hate that reveal too. It was unrealistic that Starfleet wouldn't have known, and weakened his character.

 

Since when is Starfleet a military?

 

Since Tuesday.

 

Please pass the popcorn...