Jake Sisko - Completely Unlikeable

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by spinagogue, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. spinagogue

    spinagogue Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Post-season 3, I found Jake Sisko outstandingly annoying and rather unlikeable as a human being. To the point that it almost defies belief that Captain Sisko, caring as he was, wouldn't have disowned him as a son. (Ok, that's hyperbole.)

    Some characters are meant to be unlikeable, of course. But I don't the writers intended Jake to be such a twerp. I hate to say this too, but he couldn't have been so unlikeable without Cirroc Lofton being a bona fide terrible actor too.

    I love DS9. Have watched the whole series probably 5 times.

    Anyone else despise Jake Sisko? :-)

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  2. GulBahana

    GulBahana Commander Red Shirt

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    I thought it was good he had some rebellious qualities like many teens do. He even wanted to stay on the station when the Dominion took over.
     
  3. Michael

    Michael [ˈmɪçaːʔeːl] Moderator

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    Always loved Jake. :shrug:
     
  4. Danoz

    Danoz Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    So I liked him. It would've been easy to write the character as a strong, confident, mini-Sisko ready to walk in Dad's Starfleet Command footsteps.

    Instead, he's complex. He makes mistakes. He's smart, and yes -- fairly dramatic and annoying, but he's a real character. And he commands his father's love and respect regardless of his path, which makes the Sisko character better, as a result.

    So do I like Jake Sisko? Not particularly. Do I like his character and place in the show? His character development? Definitely.
     
  5. Gary Mitchell

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    He was much less annoying to me than that Crusher kid.
     
  6. Bad Thoughts

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    He was less annoying than Harry Kim and Tom Paris by a lot.
     
  7. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I don't see what's so unlikable about Jake. He was genuinely friendly and outgoing, and always meant well.

    Unlike Wesley, Jake was not an annoying holier-than-thou arrogant jackass.
     
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  8. DonIago

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    If someone didn't like Jake, I can only imagine what they'd think of Wesley...
     
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  9. kkt

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    Jake seemed to me like a real teen, with goals of his own that weren't necessarily emulating Dad. He made mistakes, overestimated himself, and learned things.
     
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  10. Peach Wookiee

    Peach Wookiee Cuddly Mod of Doom Moderator

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    Jake was a good solid character and a good son.
     
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  11. donners22

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    He was absolutely awful in Valiant, but aside from that I never had an issue with him. That was just a horribly-written episode.
     
  12. Tosk

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    I liked him just fine. Some people just don't like some characters, it happens.
     
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  13. Michael

    Michael [ˈmɪçaːʔeːl] Moderator

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    Maybe I'm misremembering the episode, but wasn't Jake the voice of reason in “Valiant” and Nog the one with questionable motives?
     
  14. Paradise City

    Paradise City Commodore Commodore

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    I found him annoying in the first season. I don't mean by that he was badly written or anything, it's just that I usually find kids drama to be annoying.

    But the character development was good and he was worthy in his role as war correspondent. I think ultimately though he lost out towards the end of the run because writers had too many loose ends to tidy up. .
     
  15. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    i thought Jake was the most realistic kid character in star trek.
     
  16. Sakonna

    Sakonna Commodore Commodore

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    I'm a Jake fan, I like how he's always a bit of a fuck-up. Even though I wanted to see him slightly more than we did, I thought it helped that they used him REALLY sparingly. Fun Memory Alpha trivia: Jake is only in 71 of 173 DS9 episodes. Morn is in 92 episodes.

    Plus two series highlights are Jake episodes: "The Visitor" and "In The Cards."
     
  17. kkt

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    And much, much less annoying than Wesley.
     
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  18. Jedi_Master

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    Thank you. One of the best characters on the show.
     
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  19. Iamnotspock

    Iamnotspock Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    On that note, does anyone know why that was? What was the deal with Cirroc Lofton's contract? How was he ostensibly a regular despite appearing in less than half the series?
     
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  20. Paradise City

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    He's like Andrew Robinson, not a full on regular. They had a large cast of regular actors and yet they still managed to give even semi-regular actors a presence so powerful, that even today we're amazed that they weren't full time.
     
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