Spoilers It’s Official... (probably TV spoilers here too)
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wot?!Poor Hugh!
But why?
What did poor Hugh
Ever do to you?
I love how this big, little surprise is a by-the-way thing related offhand in parentheses.
Oh?It didn’t remotely reconcile Discovery with the Prime timeline.
The Discovery, along with the only extant functioning spore drive, and the only human being capable of operating it, have been sent nearly a millennium into a specific thread of the future. Presumably the same is true of every other parallel timeline in which the spore drive is developed, but the Federation is not destroyed by Control.
All knowledge of the Discovery and the Spore Drive is suppressed, to the point of Pike's entire crew perjuring themselves in their debriefings, with the lie that the ship exploded.
Control goes to ground, presumed destroyed. Section 31 is restrained, and remains restrained until the Dominion War.
The only remaining continuity issues are visual in nature. And remember: the TOS 3rd season double-knit uniforms are a slight mismatch to "that damn velour" from the first two seasons, and the movie and TNG-era uniforms evolved continually.
All knowledge of the Discovery and the Spore Drive is suppressed, to the point of Pike's entire crew perjuring themselves in their debriefings, with the lie that the ship exploded.
Control goes to ground, presumed destroyed. Section 31 is restrained, and remains restrained until the Dominion War.
The only remaining continuity issues are visual in nature. And remember: the TOS 3rd season double-knit uniforms are a slight mismatch to "that damn velour" from the first two seasons, and the movie and TNG-era uniforms evolved continually.
How do you think that is going to work out, since more than a few folks were exposed to the Spore Drive? During its development, during its testing, during the war. Did the Klingons also promise to suppress their knowledge of the ship? Harry Mudd?
I doubt this is the case, since a TV series about them is coming down the pike.
It has been twelve years.
Well, the Klingons did conveniently pretend they never attempted to attack Earth, despite doing just that in Disco.
I'm a slow reader, it grieves me to say.
The genesis device is discussed during a public high stake intergalactic meeting - how much is that used past the TOS movie period?
We know from DS9 that protomatter was used again. And just because it wasn't mentioned, doesn't mean someone didn't attempt to use it again at some point.
Then there's "The Genesis Wave" novels where an alien species does just that, but on a planetary system scale.
It's one reason I find the classified a clumsy plot device. I'll give them some points for trying to address some of the continuity issues. My guess is with Discovery now far in the future we won't see the 23rd century much now and that was there way of closing it out.
But yeah, I'd have to imagine there'd be all kinds of spies from other powers trying to get their hands on that technology (much like in the DS9 novels when the Typhon Pact tries to get their hands on slipstream). And those powers may not share the Federations concern for the multi-verse.
From everything I've seen Section 31 is supposed to take place in the 23rd century.
Yeah, true enough. I was just thinking of Discovery and not of other shows.
I wonder, will Section 31 pick up where Discovery left off? Maybe they'll even have a mission where they have to protect the spore drive secret in some fashion. Maybe some alien species tries to steal the secret and Section 31 has to stop them.
I'm trying to recall, does Discovery still have its spore drive in the future? We may not have seen the last of spore drive, just in the 23rd century.
I thought they ripped its guts out to build the Red Angel suit?
Poor Hugh!
But why?
What did poor Hugh
Ever do to you?
Don't worry, it was a heroic sacrifice.
Well, it's not like it "counts" anymore....
Probably. I always assumed that bit in the inquiry scene in the finale where the faceless Admiral names Tyler the new director of Section 31 was meant to be setting up for the series.
As far as canon and continuity goes, it really doesn't matter when you just treat it as a multiverse. The events of the books represent one timeline, the events of Picard represent another.
Which also made zero sense. They likely had thousands of candidates who had far more experience and had shown their loyalty to Starfleet.
Which also made zero sense. They likely had thousands of candidates who had far more experience and had shown their loyalty to Starfleet.
This was like half a year ago, but one of the lead developers said they hadn't decided yet, but they are willing to retcon their own stories to try and fit with Picard.
They don't get plot info ahead of time, they get it the same way we do, via the episodes. However, they are given the art assets and all of that in advance. For example they knew the Discovery could spin a month before we did because the 3D model they were given had that function built in.
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Well, it's not like it "counts" anymore....[/QUOTE]
...well, if it's a worthy heroic sacrifice...
I shall expect waterworks on the level of Spock in the engine room over Genesis.
Well, it's not like it "counts" anymore....
[/QUOTE]...well, if it's a worthy heroic sacrifice...
I shall expect waterworks on the level of Spock in the engine room over Genesis.
Remove the word "occasionally," and you'd be right. Conan Doyle constantly contradicted himself, which is hilarious given that his main character was supposed to be hyperobservant and a stickler for detail, a quality his chronicler did not share in the slightest.
Hikaru was first spoken on screen in Sulu's log entry at the top of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
Which also made zero sense. They likely had thousands of candidates who had far more experience and had shown their loyalty to Starfleet.
Not necessarily - Remember, a lot of seemingly top Starfleet officers involved with 31 got killed in Project Daedalus. It could be that, given his efforts to stop the threat of Control, Command sees him as best suited to keep in mind the hazards of too active a hand.
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