Spoilers Is Jet Reno related to McCoy?
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For me it's not the 'mouthiness' per se. Both McCoy and Trip had that quality from time to time, BUT (unlike Jet Reno as presented to date) both of them had te capacity to both back off and apologize. Something I've yet to see jet Reno display.
Is that a problem?
It makes me not care for the Jet Reno character, and I wouldn't shed a tear if she say, slammed into an asteroid...
But YMMV.I mentioned it only because for me that makes her character NOT like either Trip Tucker or Leonard McCoy (which she been compared to).
So far I'll take Reno over McCoy any day, fancy going to work and being racially insulted by your doctor colleague each time he treats you...yeah great work atmosphere that isIt makes me not care for the Jet Reno character, and I wouldn't shed a tear if she say, slammed into an asteroid...
I mentioned it only because for me that makes her character NOT like either Trip Tucker or Leonard McCoy (which she been compared to).
Reed came across as grumpy. Or maybe just British.
I would go with British or cliche British. The ole Stiff Upper Lip thing. He was pretty stoic. Heck he was more stoic than T'Pol and she was a Vulcan.
Jason
I would honestly hope not. I want these adventures to get away from trying to tie into characters to or from TOS or any other incarnation of Star Trek. I want Jet Reno to be her own entity.
Reed was the Hollywood stereotype of an Englishman written by someone stuck with a 1950s version of its citizens
There was another "I'm an engineer, not a poet" gag in Through the Valley of Shadows.....
Her exchange with Stamets about relationships shows quite clearly that she has warmth. Her lack of charm is a personal defence mechanism to keep away people who don't share her love for her work. She says as much to him, people like them find people like us, acknowledging that both she and Stamets prefer their work to social interaction but found partners willing to take up that slack and form a functional couple.
Tribal/feudal structuring in the olden times, European people were named after where they came from, or what their job was.
World War III collapsed western society, and probably every one else too.
In the 2050s, earlier possibly considering world war three, according to the books, lasted 30 years worth of limited strikes before a complete and final nuclear exchange in 2053... Janet's ancestors may have settled in Reno, and built walls to keep the mutants out.
This is a possibly for any future person who has the name of a city for their last name.
McCoy, if that hasn't been his family name since before the troubles, sounds like Leonard had his roots in an Optimum group under Col. Green, where a real McCoy didn't have to be thrown into a mass grave with the other mutants, to maintain the purity of the gene-pool.
World War III collapsed western society, and probably every one else too.
In the 2050s, earlier possibly considering world war three, according to the books, lasted 30 years worth of limited strikes before a complete and final nuclear exchange in 2053... Janet's ancestors may have settled in Reno, and built walls to keep the mutants out.
This is a possibly for any future person who has the name of a city for their last name.
McCoy, if that hasn't been his family name since before the troubles, sounds like Leonard had his roots in an Optimum group under Col. Green, where a real McCoy didn't have to be thrown into a mass grave with the other mutants, to maintain the purity of the gene-pool.
I agree. Stamets and Reno are very similar in that regard, both sporting prickly personas to keep people at arm's length, both very work driven and dedicated to their professions. And yet we've seen the softer Stamets, too. Through his interactions with Hugh, Burnham and Tilly we get to see that warmer side of him. If Reno stays on, I'd love to see more scenes between the two of them, where they still bicker and yet grow even more respect for each other over time.
I've noticed that Discovery has been carefully introducing distinctive personality types as an homage to its fans I think. Fact-obsessed brainiacs that are high on the autistic spectrum with uneven social skills are often the people who bring about great discoveries. Each one has their own brand of 'crazy' and it's not uncommon for them to get on each other's nerves. They can also be fanatically loyal to their loved ones and the people they respect as well. I think they are far more fun to watch as characters than a bunch of chisel jawed himbos throwing punches and you can already see respect growing between these two.
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So, back to the topic, does anyone think its more than a coincidence that they've had her use the "I'm an engineer, not a ________" twice now?
I think many versions of Trek try to pay homage McCoy with varying success (Pulaski, Trip, Holodoc, Lily Sloane, Reno). I think this type of character works best as a counterpoint to the perceived wisdom of the officer characters. Trip worked less well for me as he was the most senior engineering officer on the ship and needed to be more professional. Plus, as a friend of the captain, it often looked like he was using that friendship to take liberties. The medics have the luxury of being outside the chain of command so they are more free to express opposition.
Discovery initially focused on characters who were lower down the pecking order in a chain of command that was taking liberties and that dynamic of moral conflict in the chain of command runs a lot deeper than previous Trek, even more so with the plot twists of season two. I think because of that the personalities of the characters are that bit more exaggerated trying to be a bit louder to get noticed.
The dynamic still works with Pike because he is shown as someone willing to listen even where it's just noise albeit he makes his own decisions.
Discovery initially focused on characters who were lower down the pecking order in a chain of command that was taking liberties and that dynamic of moral conflict in the chain of command runs a lot deeper than previous Trek, even more so with the plot twists of season two. I think because of that the personalities of the characters are that bit more exaggerated trying to be a bit louder to get noticed.
The dynamic still works with Pike because he is shown as someone willing to listen even where it's just noise albeit he makes his own decisions.
Director Jonathan Frakes addresses the topic:
It's more than a coincidence that she says that, but it's not because she's related or even knows McCoy. It's only because the writers know McCoy. DS9 also gave O'Brien and another engineer "I'm an engineer, not a..." lines, as well as B'Elanna in Voyager. MA has a compilation of similar lines from different characters (under "Variations") - some of those may be coincidence though.
Won't have to worry about Reno after Ep14
I predict she will be killed off, in the act of saving the day
I predict she will be killed off, in the act of saving the day
Hence his bigoted comments to Spock?
Possibly?
Optimum was about health, not racism.
Radiation would have fractured the birthrate and quartered life expectancy.
Millions of Teenagers dying of super cancer, every week.
You would think that Vulcan DNA would have given the Optimum people a huge boner, what with them being radiation proof and extremely long lived.
"Sigh"
Optimum was about health, not racism.
Radiation would have fractured the birthrate and quartered life expectancy.
Millions of Teenagers dying of super cancer, every week.
You would think that Vulcan DNA would have given the Optimum people a huge boner, what with them being radiation proof and extremely long lived.
"Sigh"
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