You can get one over on TPTB if you arrange a group viewing. I watched all of Picard Season 2 with a group of five friends - which was, of course, counted as only one view. Our victory over P+ or CBS or whoever was absolute.
Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?
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I thought that Michael and Sarek's relationship was the best part of the first season of Disco. And I enjoyed her scenes with Spock. It was a very different relationship than we had seen Spock have before.
What was the point of bringing O'Brien to Deep Space Nine? Heck, why did we have to follow ANOTHER Enterprise in TNG?
But you put lots of those voices together and it means something. Ask Pixar right now about if it matters if people go to the movies or not.
Remind me how many seasons of TOS there are? Obviously if you are the only person who doesn't watch it doesn't matter. If you're the only person who does watch it doesn't matter.
I unironically agree with this.
Much more succinct an answer than I was typing. Thank you.
I’m sorry but I’m not familiar with what’s going on with Pixar. My 6yo son went with his aunt to go see Elio and they both seemed to enjoy it. But it looks like a lot of people are voting with their wallet and not seeing it, so I’m not sure what your point is here.
It has always felt like a cheap and unengaging hook to me. I've seen Spock's story, I've read dozens of novels about Spock and his family.
Nothing about what Discovery or SNW has done feels fresh in any way, from my perspective as a long time Trek fan. Of course, mileage will and does vary.
My point is that the previous posters indicated that voting with one's wallet doesn't matter. And clearly it does. I will never make or break Star Trek as an individual. But lots of people will.
I remember after Serenity crashed and burned I met so many people who saw the movie on video and said "That was awesome! Why aren't they making more?" "Did you go see it?" "No." "They're not making any more because there are lots and lots of people just like you and not enough people like me."
I never said I paid to watch nuTrek...
Still demonstrates interest to the company.I never said I paid to watch nuTrek...
The only true indicator of an unwanted product is not to engage with it.
Not when If im watching it with someone.
I think by this point Trek is ready for a new show runner. These things have lifecycles, and a person can stay at the helm too long.
One problem that won't change soon is that people now are simply too polarized and subject to social media opinions to make a series that will appeal to everyone. Present company excepted, of course.
There's no way of undoing that without offering a bland product, which I hope they continue to resist doing. I'd rather see the Enterprise self destruct than get mothballed. And there's still a lot of letters in the alphabet.
One problem that won't change soon is that people now are simply too polarized and subject to social media opinions to make a series that will appeal to everyone. Present company excepted, of course.
There's no way of undoing that without offering a bland product, which I hope they continue to resist doing. I'd rather see the Enterprise self destruct than get mothballed. And there's still a lot of letters in the alphabet.
Did someone watch it?
Indicates interest to the company. That's it. It's a view.
You don't like it? Don't watch it, engage with it, or discuss it. Drive it's value down.
One view and it's two people.
I already addressed this pages back im going to continue to watch.
I liked the idea of the spore drive, and some of the characters were well written (Saru, Stamets), but overall I felt the story could very easily have been told in a different time period (say, post-TUC but pre-TNG), or even in a rebooted universe, and not shoehorned into pre-TOS and needing that crutch, along with the unnecessary plot device of Burnham being Spock's adopted sister. It felt like CBS didn't have enough faith in their show unless they could link it to TOS like the Abrams films did.
I probably wouldn’t have had as much of an issue with Burnham being Spock’s sister, if they had done something to build up her character first.
From a story POV, it felt very unearned.
Except she wasn't remarkable (in the show) because she was raised by Sarek and Amanda. She was remarkable because she was a promising young officer who then started a war.
They splooged her connection to Spock in the first ten minutes of the pilot. Every moment after that she was Spock’s sister.
The biggest reveal the show had to offer wasn’t built up to, it was just dumped out there in the first episode.
I don't know if I would describe her as 'remarkable' in that sense. The character always came off as extremely overrated to me.
Yeah, the main character screws up and has to call Dad, didn’t exactly make me think of her as remarkable.
I don't recall that that was exactly how that went down. But in any event "screws up" in this context is "engages with the Klingon Empire in a way that plunges the Empire and the Federation into full scale war."
Even if you don't think of that as interesting, in universe it would make her a person of note.
Why do I care about the former first officer of a ship that got blown away in an off-screen battle from the third season of TNG? Who is, I kid you not, best friends with a person who, no I can't make this up, best friends / honorary family with ALMOST EVERY KLINGON from TOS?
Chamberlain is a historical figure of note, not sure too many folks think of him as remarkable.
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