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Is 3-D ruining film-going for you?

23skidoo

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I considered not starting this thread because I'm sure someone will just go "get with the times". My response is "---k 'em". So here we go.

I have nothing against 3-D. I was initially concerned that the recent 3-D seen in Avatar wouldn't work for me because my astigmatism prevented me from viewing the "color glasses" form of 3-D of films like Journey to the Center of the Earth. I went to see Avatar in 3-D and it worked fine except my eyes began watering if I watched more than 5 minutes at a time at which point I took off my glasses briefly and relaxed my eyes and then I was good for another few minutes.

Now read what I just wrote above. Every 5 minutes or so I had to interrupt the film -- take myself out of the movie experience -- because my eyes were watering. I also found myself at times going a bit cross-eyed in order to properly see the 3-D. If you want to know why I did not find Avatar the immersive experience some claim it to be, that's a pretty major reason.

At the end of the day I could have easily done without it. I probably would have enjoyed the film more (my often-stated criticisms of its plot and politics notwithstanding) had I gone to see one of the screens showing the 2-D version instead.

Now, of course, everyone is jumping on the 3-D bandwagon since Avatar brought in the big bucks. New films are being announced as being made in 3-D. Films that were not designed to be 3-D are being retroactively converted, such as Alice in Wonderland and the new Harry Potter (presumably this is being done with the directors' OK, but I still liken it to colorizing black and white movies). Alice sounds like it could be as huge a hit as Avatar, which will open the floodgates even more.

I'm going to be honest. I was looking forward to seeing Alice in Wonderland. Until I found out it was going to be in 3-D. There's no way I'm going to be able to enjoy a film if my fracking eyes water every few minutes; not to mention I don't care what other people think, as someone who already wears glasses it's bloody awkward to fit a second pair of glasses over top. It also looks stupid, I don't care if I'm in the dark. But anyway ...

It so happens a couple of screens in my city are showing Alice in 2-D but they're way the hell over the other side of town and I can't be bothered to go that far out of my way. So I'm not going to go see it now until the Blu-Ray comes out which, I trust, will have the 2-D version included.

The writing's on the wall that in all likelihood the 2-D option might not be made available at all in the future, at least in terms of SF/F films. Despite what some people have claimed, I honestly can't imagine something like Up in the Air or Sex and the City 2 being produced or released in 3-D. It'd be stupid. Unfortunately those types of films aren't the kind I'm usually interested in seeing in a theatre anyway.

So I'm in a bit of quandary that I've never encountered before. And that is I usually have several films that I'm really looking forward to every year. I certainly have several coming up this year I really want to go see.

Alice in Wonderland was one. Now it isn't. I will probably get the Blu-Ray later, or I may not bother. I'm no longer even so enthused about the other films coming up, like Deathly Hallows. My 70-year-old father, who is the biggest Harry Potter fan on Earth, has already told me he won't go see Deathly Hallows in the theatre if it's 3-D.

I know people like me are dismissed as Luddites and "old fashioned". The flaming I got when I criticized the remastering of Star Trek TOS is one of the reasons I never post on Trek-specific boards anymore because people just didn't "get it" no matter how many times I tried to explain my objections. People probably will also call me an idiot and say "just deal" as they read this thread before heading out for their 10th viewing of Avatar or Alice. But I can't believe I'm the only one for whom the "all-in" approach that is either already being followed or will soon be followed regarding 3-D is leaving them feeling more than a little disenfranchised.

Alex
 
GTFO Heretic! Nah just kidding dude. I totally agree. This 3D 2nd or 3rd rennaissance is getting out of control. I know people will just say well then don't effin watch it in 3D then. Which is all fine and dandy, but just tired of hearing every other movie news being announced that it will be in 3D, most likely coverted and not shot in. So I say Feh to 3D, bring back SMELL-O-VISION!
 
It's not "ruining" film-going, but the simple fact is, I do not want to wear big glasses over my face for every sci-fi action movie I see. Any 3D movie release should have a corresponding 2D showing as well. Until the day we can do 3D without wearing anything extra.
 
GTFO Heretic! Nah just kidding dude. I totally agree. This 3D 2nd or 3rd rennaissance is getting out of control. I know people will just say well then don't effin watch it in 3D then. Which is all fine and dandy, but just tired of hearing every other movie news being announced that it will be in 3D, most likely coverted and not shot in. So I say Feh to 3D, bring back SMELL-O-VISION!

So you don't even want to hear about it? I think you're SOL.:)
 
It's been 3 months since Avatar, one 3-D movie that was going to be 3-D anyway even before Avatar came out has been released, and already we're talking about 3-D ruining the entire filmgoing experience?

Yikes.
 
Nah, the people who go to local theatres are what ruined it for me. I was shocked with how rude, noisy, and assholish people are at the movies when I moved here (a rather large city in the South Western United States). I'd rather wait to rent it anymore, especially now that I've mastered the taste of movie popcorn and have a rather awesome home theatre system.

3D is yet another gimmicky fad. Unless they start producing home theatre accessories to support it, too, and not make it tedious or uncomfortable to use, it's going to fade away again just like it always has in the past.
 
Honestly i was never an big fan of the 3D gimmick, I always hated it and still do. There are whole bunch Movies i like to see but when i hear that half the movies i want to see are going 3D it bums me out, yes its true that many of the movie studios are pitching the idea of having there movies in 3D, like Green Lantern , there was talks of Ghostbusters 3 also going 3D, and the once plan Halloween 3 was also consider the 3D treatment so yeah its making my trip to the movie theater alot more boring. No 3D for Me.
 
Nope, it's not - I love 3D.

Modern 3D films can be watched in 2D without the glasses, with no problem at all - the image is somewhat dimmer in some cases, is all.
 
I'm wondering how this is going to work, have they all agreed on a 3D standard yet or is this going to be a Betamax kind of deal for some of them?
They've agreed on a standard in terms of getting it onto the disc, and getting it from the player to the TV.

Different TVs can have different 3D implementations (glasses for one might not work with another), but you'll still be able to use the same discs/Blu-ray players with both.
 
Nope, it's not - I love 3D.

Modern 3D films can be watched in 2D without the glasses, with no problem at all - the image is somewhat dimmer in some cases, is all.

I took my glasses off in the middle of Avatar out of curiosity, and I couldn't see a thing. The whole film was a giant blur.
 
Yeah you cannot take off your glasses in a 3D film and expect to see clearly. Some scenes will look OK, others a giant double-vision blur.

You are meant to keep your glasses on at all times - Taking them on and off might actually aggravate the problem, since it forces your eyes to adjust back and forth.

That being said, unfortunately 3D causes eye strain for many (including the OP), and that is unfortunate.

BUT... 3D is the future, and is here to stay. I'm sure better 3D projection techniques will be developed that reduces the problem, and eventually (not anytime soon) we won't need glasses.
 
No, not at all. I don't mind the 3D. If done well, like in Avatar, it can really add to the experience. I don't see 2D being phased out any time soon, either. not every film will benefit as much from 3D. Films like Avatar or Alice in Wonderland that are very much about the striking visuals are the ones that benefit the most. I don't ever see your standard romantic comedy or dramas being presented in 3D. It just wouldn't make sense. It's the big blockbusters with the expensive CGI visuals that are being presented that way, and that's most likely the way it's going to stay. 2D cinema is in no immediate danger of being phased out.
 
There are very few films which I'd be willing to pay higher ticket prices for to see in 3D. I didn't even see Avatar in 3D the second time around, and Ihave no plans to see Alice in Wonderland in 3D. The effect doesn't bother me, but I don't think it adds much to the experience either.
 
Unless they start producing home theatre accessories to support it, too, and not make it tedious or uncomfortable to use, it's going to fade away again just like it always has in the past.
Sony is releasing it's first 3D HDTV sets in June.
Added a bit of emphasis. Having to wear bulky, easily-lost and damaged glasses all the time = tedious and uncomfortable.
 
For screenings that use polarization to create a stereoscopic effect, I expect that wearing lens with the same polarization orientation would allow you to see the film in 2D. For IMAX, which uses electronically controlled LCD shuttering, you're probably stuffed unless they can provide glasses which make the shutters operate in phase for both eyes. Unlikely, given that the glasses are something like £100 a pair.
 
23skidoo I get what you are saying. I have glasses and astigmatism but I had no problem with the 3D at all I loved it. My wife however had a splitting headache after 30 minutes. She does not want to see a 3D movie again.

Dennis 23 and I are in the same city. I don't know if the 3D technology is the same where you are but here without the glasses the image is a mess. And as he mentioned the only 2D showings are far out of his way.

23 I love the 3D and I am sorry that you cannot get the same enjoyment out of it that I can. The only thing i can suggest at this point is to try the 3D again, But get a guarantee from the theater that if you cannot handle it you get a full money back guarantee. And keep pressuring your local cinema to show the 2D version of movies as well.
 
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