Better than Generations and certainly better than Nemesis. Further ahead than Star Trek too.
Insurrection not a bad film
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I like it, it's good fun, the music is great, the showdown is excellent, I like the villains, I love the cast chemistry.
I actually prefer Insurrection to First Contact. I do think it was the TNG movie that best captured the tone of the TV series (as far as being an ensemble cast, dealing with morality issues, etc.).
Now, if only they hadn't done the silly joystick thing on the bridge...
Now, if only they hadn't done the silly joystick thing on the bridge...
Only shows that Frakes is a good director who can recognize mistakes, laugh about them, and then probably never do them again.
Worst ethical dilemma ever presented in Star Trek, "yuppies fight eminent domain". Tough to take the film seriously.
Avatar. Same story.
And ironically, the first draft of the script would have been very much like Avatar, with a very strange alien world, and very strange aliens.
Worst ethical dilemma ever presented in Star Trek, "yuppies fight eminent domain". Tough to take the film seriously.
Avatar. Same story.
And ironically, the first draft of the script would have been very much like Avatar, with a very strange alien world, and very strange aliens.
Wasn't too thrilled with Avatar either.
Should've kept the "Serium Krellide as the backbone of medical technology" angle. It would've given the story something tangible to center on.
Insurrection is near the bottom rung of Star Trek movies.
It's message is simply horrible. The Enterprise senior officers take the side of a group of smug, self-centered, Aryan neo-Luddite squatters rather than those who wish to use the resources of the planet to benefit the vastly greater number of people.
Rather than "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the view" and "beauty and goodness are INSIDE," they give the opposite message.
"look at how White and pretty the Baku are!"
"look at how dark and repulsive the Son'a are!" boo, hiss!
When I watch this movie, I tolerate it better by rooting for Admiral Dougherty and the Son'a.
It's message is simply horrible. The Enterprise senior officers take the side of a group of smug, self-centered, Aryan neo-Luddite squatters rather than those who wish to use the resources of the planet to benefit the vastly greater number of people.
Rather than "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the view" and "beauty and goodness are INSIDE," they give the opposite message.
"look at how White and pretty the Baku are!"
"look at how dark and repulsive the Son'a are!" boo, hiss!
When I watch this movie, I tolerate it better by rooting for Admiral Dougherty and the Son'a.
The Son'a are extraneous to this film, it should've been Starfleet vs. Starfleet and the place of "necessary evils" in our lives. There was a great movie in there... somewhere.
It is the only star trek film that I fell asleep in the middle of watching.
Agree 100 %
INS is the only ST film I walked out at roughly the halfway point on... and soured any interest in ever seeing NEM. Still haven't seen the latter to date, and (from what I read here) -- that's probably a good thing.
Cheers,
-CM-
Cheers,
-CM-
There were three Trek films I almost walked out of: STV, Insurrection, and Nemesis.
Interesting. The message I got from the film was that it's bad for the Federation's military to invade a non-Federation planet, relocate the inhabitants to another planet, and then steal their natural resources. Not very Federation like, not very Prime-Directive like, and pretty much frowned upon by even the "backward humans" of the 20th Century.
More generally, with regard to the OP, I actually liked Insurrection much better than Nemesis. Nemesis was pretty much a lesser clone of TWOK and a bit boring IMO. Insurrection brought with it pretty much everything I liked about TNG. Another thing that I liked about Insurrection was that, when filming it, someone decided to use lights.
I do agree, however, that the Son'a could have been left out.
I thought it was typical of a film written by a television writer. No scope to the project, nothing special. It would've made a decent two-part episode (much as Generations without the Kirk stuff makes a good episode). But the script isn't very impressive at all.
