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Indiana Jones 5. It's official.

I didn't read all of the original City of the Gods script. I read up to the point where Indy was drunk after being fired, and that whole sequence was out of character for him. He got drunk in Raiders after Marion "died", but he never acted dumb. Though I guess it was no more out of character than the painfully-bad attempt at dry humor that was the sandpit sequence in Crystal Skull.

I'm one of those who didn't exactly hate the whole aliens angle. I get why Lucas wanted to do it. It was just executed poorly and the story had no tension. At all. And the first 30 minutes of it were really well-done (yes, even the fridge). So was the graveyard thing. I actually liked that. It all went downhill from there, though.

If they do a reboot, I think they should cast an "unknown." I think it needs to be an unknown so we can go prior to 1935. And I want to see him in China. Or India again (maybe the Nepal/Kashmir mountainous regions, trying to find Shangri-La). Maybe Japan. Or the incident with the Sultan of Madagascar.....

If Spielberg (or any other director) doesn't want to do "cartoon bad guy Nazis" again, then make the expansionist Japanese the bad guys if you set it in 1937 China. Or you can have an old Ford in a cameo role, remembering back to 1926 or something with his first adventures as a young "Dr. Jones."

Chris Pratt is the "it boy" now, just like Shia LeBeouf was back in 2007 when they cast him in Crystal Skull. I don't know if he'll still be the "it boy" after 2019. He's probably the front runner because he's already in a Disney franchise. If he is cast, I guess I'll just get used to it, even if I don't like him much.

It was a throwback to Raiders, before Indy was turned into a cartoon. The intrigue was there and had a bit of darkness to it. All of the banter between Marion, her new husband and Indy and the dynamics of that triangle was much more true to the characters as introduced in Raiders. I remember there was a great action sequence where what seemed like tiling and ceremonial decor turned out to be pieces of a giant circuit board or something, stone alien tech or whatever. Its been a few years since I've read it, but I remember being really impressed, and thinking THIS is the Indy movie I wanted to see. Until I read that script, I had been an ardent defender of the movie as is, but the previous version seemed so much better.
 
If recasting Han Solo works out, I guess Indy can be done too.
"If." :D

I don't know if I'd necessarily want to see Ford's Indy recast, my ideal would be to jump to the modern day with Chris Pratt as Indiana Jones III. That way we could still have the series about Indiana Jones, not ignore Mutt, and get an appearance from Harrison Ford as Grandpa Indy.
I think the Uncharted franchise is proof that modern Indiana Jones style stories can still be great.
That could work, although I would miss the historical aspect of the series.
 

My favorite Indiana Jones film was, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade One way I think they could make it work with Ford is the same type of interaction with Indiana having a son as what happened in Crusade and the interplay between Connery and Ford.
 
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My favorite Indiana Jones film was, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade One way I think they could make it work with Ford is the same type of interaction with Indiana having a son as what happened in Crusade and the interplay between Connery and Ford.

They could call the son Mutt and have him played by Shia LeBouef. :devil:
 
I don't know if I'd necessarily want to see Ford's Indy recast, my ideal would be to jump to the modern day with Chris Pratt as Indiana Jones III. That way we could still have the series about Indiana Jones, not ignore Mutt, and get an appearance from Harrison Ford as Grandpa Indy.
I think the Uncharted franchise is proof that modern Indiana Jones style stories can still be great.
That could work, although I would miss the historical aspect of the series.

And perhaps Indiana Jones III should drive a Porsche and wear Tom Ford suits. Or probably not…

I think that Uncharted is proof that a modern Indiana Jones franchise already exists and we don't need another one. Indiana Jones shouldn't copy Nathan Drake. Or Lara Croft. Or Robert Langdon. Or National Treasure. Or the Librarians. Or Relic Hunter. Or… A big part of Indiana Jones' character and appeal is his time period. Otherwise he will become a "ripoff" of his own "ripoffs".
 
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I think Crystal Skull is better than Last Crusade, but I also think Temple of Doom is better than every other movie in the franchise including Crystal Skull (which I absolutely adore, BTW).

As much as I like the storyline in Last Crusade and the dynamic between Indy and his father, I find Irina Spalko and the storyline of Crystal Skull, as well as the introduction of Mutt, Mac, and Oxley and the return of Marion to be more interesting, on the whole, than what happens in Last Crusade, and like that, in contrast to Crusade, each and every one of Indy's supporting cast feels like they have something to do (Marcus Brody and Sallah had no real reason to be in Last Crusade other than to give Indy somebody to play off of besides his father and Elsa).

And, for the record, the reasons I think Temple is the best of the four are as follows:
1) It shows us a side of Indy that we don't see in the other movies

2) It's got Short Round, who is my favorite of Indy's "sidekicks"

3) I love Willie; she plays off of Indy in a way that none of the other "Indy Girls" do and, again, helps bring out elements of his character that we don't see in the other films

4) I love the storyline of the Sankara Stones and the whole "Kali death cult", and the fact that, unlike any of the other movies, it actually comments on a social ill (the concept of slavery and child labor)
 
It's the weakest, but I like Crystal Skull. Love the Area 51 opening. Love the jungle chase. It works just on pure nostalgia. And I kinda liked Mutt Williams.
 
I, too, like Crystal Skull (including the fridge scene :D), but it's not better than Last Crusade. Indy is one of those concepts (like Star Trek that I look at as a whole, so I don't like to pick favorites, but if pressed I would pick Temple of Doom as the weakest, for various reasons. To begin with, it was a mistake to make it a prequel, as it is inconsistent with Indy's characterization in Raiders. It also suffers from an excess of that 80s "Darker & Grittier" obsession (which, sadly, has taken over pop culture in the last thirty years), which is inconsistent with Indy thematically (and don't talk to me about melting faces, you know what I mean ;)). And, of course, that stupid falling life raft, which defies physics in an instinctive and graceless way that the fridge escape does not. :rommie:
 
Raiders had its fair share of darkness as well.... it was Crusade and Crystal Skull adding more lightheartedness.
 
I like Indy 4, I just think it is weak in the last act, where Harrison basically has to drag around an entire troupe of people when really it should just be him saving the day.

I'm also not a hater of Temple. Yes, it is the weakest of the original three, but I still think it's great.
 
Ive always thought that after Raiders, which is a perfect action adventure romp, each Indy movie got weaker and weaker. I like Temple, as it was the first Indy film I saw but I agree that it is too dark and Willie is a poor replacement for Marian. However, the action is great, imho, and it rattles along at too great a pace to allow me to dwell on its flaws.

Crusade is, for me, played too much for laughs, the action sequences are less exciting than its predecessors and the plot too similar to Raiders (at the time, I wondered at the way that both George Lucas trilogies rehashed their respective first films in their respective third). And it makes far too little use of Indy's theme tune for my liking! But the Ford/Connery chemistry goes a long way.

I enjoyed KOTCS until roughly the time they got to South America, at which time it just began to feel like an Indiana Jones rip-off written and directed by people who'd heard of the character but never actually seen one of his films. Ford was the best thing about it, IMHO, giving his first not-phoned-in performance in years. But it fell apart by the end.
 
Whatever else you might think of it, the thing that Last Crusade did better than any of the other movies was the chemistry and interplay between Ford and Connery. None of the other co-stars even got close to that dynamic. Not Short Round & Willie, not Mutt and not even Marion.
 
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Last Crusade is my favorite Indiana Jones movie by far. The dynamic between Indy and his father is great, I like the overall story better then the stories in the other movies, and it has the best moments, like Indy meeting Hitler or the scene about choosing the right Grail. After TLC for me comes Raiders, then Crystal Skull, which I like but its very flawed. Temple of Doom is the only Indiana Jones movie I actively dislike. I'd put it at Crystal Skulls level if it didn't have Willie and Short Round. The actually overall story isn't terrible, but those two characters make the movie almost unwatchable for me.
 
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