Indiana Jones 5. It's official.
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Sounds like you're the mad one, then.
Only when I watch that movie.
Even that narrative crumbles somewhat when you looked at the sales of the BB-8 droid toys and such only less than a decade ago, while Rian Johnson is a more celebrated movie director now.
I also think people aren't quite aware of what Kathleen Kennedy's job actually is. She's a producer, not a writer or director. Her job is basically to hire people to make a movie or TV show happen. And since Lucasfilm is part of Disney, she doesn't even get to have final say over whether a particular IP should be given a rest or not. Disney paid $ 4 billion for Lucasfilm, and that was because of the IP attached. She can't tell Disney that they probably shouldn't make this much Star Wars, or they shouldn't do something with the Indiana Jones IP. Well, yes, okay, she can tell Disney that, but Disney doesn't need to listen. Because, if Disney doesn't like what they hear, they can fire her and get somebody else. Disney+ needs shows, so make a damn Boba Fett thing already, and quick. Some fans didn't like what your last director did to his Star Wars movie, so get the other guy back, and no, you can't have more time, the movie has to come out when the toys are on shelves. And get Ford to agree to do another Indiana Jones, we paid for that IP and we want to see something for it. Hey, Kathleen, it's me, Iger, I'm back, and the last guy kind of overdid it with the orders, so cancel a lot of what your people have been working on, we need to save some money.
Also, yes, Rise of Skywalker was crap, but as has been pointed out, it still made a shitload of money. It's the toys for the new trilogy that didn't sell, because people didn't quite like the new characters.
Meanwhile, those critics tend to forget that Rogue One, The Mandalorian, or Andor also happened with Kennedy in charge. But of course there, she's suddenly just a producer and she didn't have anything to do with the success.
The new characters were good. They were just in bad, poorly planned and written movies. And TROS is better than it had any right to be, and is better than TLJ, which had the worst opening I have ever seen for that genre, especially for Star Wars. It wasn’t even the biggest flaw though.
In terms of action figures, I made sure my little one had two Reys, a Finn, a Poe, and even a Rose Tico from the new films. Though he went off Star Wars a bit when they started kicking shite out of Kanaan over in Rebels.
Edit: forgot to say my Indiana Jones bit:
Crystal Skull was good, and perfectly in keeping. This new one looks good, and likely in keeping. Phoebe Waller-Bridge is excellent in everything she touches, and is not deserving of being branded as politically correct or whathaveyou on the basis of her Fleabag Twat-Nav joke alone.
Indy, famously, is not a ‘bad’ colonialist archaeologist, as is established in pretty much every Indiana Jones movie ever made. That’s just a reactionary political reading, based on surface detail rather than actually engaging with the text.
Or they don't understand inflation.
The buck stops with her. These movies aren't creative playgrounds for directors/writers, they're made by focus groups. Rogue One was an awful awful movie and goes back to my original point of it being a nostalgia cash grab. The last 10 minutes of that movie were just tagged on because the actual movie was shit.I also think people aren't quite aware of what Kathleen Kennedy's job actually is. She's a producer, not a writer or director. Her job is basically to hire people to make a movie or TV show happen. And since Lucasfilm is part of Disney, she doesn't even get to have final say over whether a particular IP should be given a rest or not. Disney paid $ 4 billion for Lucasfilm, and that was because of the IP attached. She can't tell Disney that they probably shouldn't make this much Star Wars, or they shouldn't do something with the Indiana Jones IP. Well, yes, okay, she can tell Disney that, but Disney doesn't need to listen. Because, if Disney doesn't like what they hear, they can fire her and get somebody else. Disney+ needs shows, so make a damn Boba Fett thing already, and quick. Some fans didn't like what your last director did to his Star Wars movie, so get the other guy back, and no, you can't have more time, the movie has to come out when the toys are on shelves. And get Ford to agree to do another Indiana Jones, we paid for that IP and we want to see something for it. Hey, Kathleen, it's me, Iger, I'm back, and the last guy kind of overdid it with the orders, so cancel a lot of what your people have been working on, we need to save some money.
Also, yes, Rise of Skywalker was crap, but as has been pointed out, it still made a shitload of money. It's the toys for the new trilogy that didn't sell, because people didn't quite like the new characters.
Meanwhile, those critics tend to forget that Rogue One, The Mandalorian, or Andor also happened with Kennedy in charge. But of course there, she's suddenly just a producer and she didn't have anything to do with the success.
Not sure what this has to do with what I posted. The box office of TLJ was half of TFA. TLJ was one of the most pointless and stupidest movies in the whole series. Solo was a giant flop. Now they've moved onto giving that treatment to Indiana Jones it seems judging from the first impressions. I couldn't give a shit about Star Wars anymore but I am disappointed they had the talent in place but it seems to have the same problems and this woman is once again front and center with the same bullshit.
Every Star Wars movies makes less than the last one, it happened with the OT and the PT as well. It doesn't mean anything.
TLJ was no more pointless and stupid than ROTJ was, Solo was a flop that's been reevaluated over time.
Indiana Jones got "this treatment" back in 2008 as well, it's nothing new.
Why? Is that something in a Book/Comic/Young Indiana Jones. That I have not read/seen?
in the Old Indy bookend segments of The Young Indy series, he has an eye patch. However those segments have been removed from later releases and decannonized. Old Indy also has a daughter, and we know that didn't happen.
Do we? We, and Indy, didn't know about Mutt for years. Who's to say he doesn't have a daughter out there, too?
Oooh. Did not know that. Fascinating bit of trivia there! Thanks for sharing
Last Jedi is the best SW movie.
It is no longer April 1st.
...or she's catering to a general decline in good taste, so it appears she is successful...
...for the wrong reasons.
Argumentative and subjective. She has overseen LFL in its ups and downs, and that includes successes like The Mandalorian, Rogue One, The Force Awakens and the Last Jedi. Solo was impacted by Disney's negative interference as they owned up to so I think Kennedy has overseen a mixed bag in her tenure, which reminds me of Lucas and I don't take as a negative at all.
Fleabag really isn’t. Except by strange new metrics I imagine.
And yeah, when he got blinded and then killed — given Rebels was aimed heavily at the 5 year olds, they maybe should have not gone that way with it. (It definitely was, I was buying the annuals and the pyjama sets with the branding xD)
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