Indiana Jones 5. It's official.

[M'rk son of Mogh]

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Could some of his running scenes have been filmed after he broke his leg?
That could also have been the case, since they still had scenes to film with him after he recovered. Maybe he'll be better in Indy!

 

[Set Harth]

He'll be 4 years older by the time this comes out; it's really hard to see how he'll handle the action scenes.

A digital double?

 

[Tom]

Clearly they are going to cast a young Indy, maybe they will use who ever Lucasfilm chooses for young Han Solo. There will be connections with the older Indy in the film and Ford will be essentially passing the torch to the younger Indy.

Keep in mind that Lucasfilm/Disney will want to have this set up more films down the road, so they need to establish a younger Indy. It will not be Indy's son or grandson, because the franchise is about him.

 

[Kor]

Please, please, please not Chris Pratt.

Kor

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Clearly they are going to cast a young Indy, maybe they will use who ever Lucasfilm chooses for young Han Solo. There will be connections with the older Indy in the film and Ford will be essentially passing the torch to the younger Indy.

Keep in mind that Lucasfilm/Disney will want to have this set up more films down the road, so they need to establish a younger Indy. It will not be Indy's son or grandson, because the franchise is about him.

So what exactly are you picturing for them to be able to do that? A flashback story where Harrison Ford just narrates his younger self? Or a last hurrah that somehow ties back to one of his earliest adventures, so they can justify young indy flashbacks? Doesn't sound like the strongest of story possibilities.

 

[davejames]

I seriously doubt they're planning to use this movie to set up some kind of spinoff or introduce a new lead actor.

The most likely plan by Disney is to have one more self-contained Spielberg/Ford movie before starting over with a reboot and an entirely new series of films.

 

[Tom]

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So what exactly are you picturing for them to be able to do that? A flashback story where Harrison Ford just narrates his younger self? Or a last hurrah that somehow ties back to one of his earliest adventures, so they can justify young indy flashbacks? Doesn't sound like the strongest of story possibilities.

Does not have to be a flashback, per se. For instance, at the beginning of the Last Crusade we had lot of time with young Indy that segued into older Indy's story. So in the new movie it can kinda be reversed so we have some stuff go on with Ford's Indy then that ties into something that happed to him in the past (lets say the 1920's ), we then stay with that young Indy. Then the next movie just stays with the young Indy and may or may not feature old Indy. There are many ways this can be done. I'm sure Disney wants this to set up future Indy films.

I seriously doubt they're planning to use this movie to set up some kind of spinoff or introduce a new lead actor.

Umm.. they are doing something like this right now with Star Wars, also owned by Disney/Lucasfilm. They are casting a young Han Solo.

 

[Kelthaz]

Well if you want an interesting way to spinoff into a younger Indy series, the upcoming film could be titled Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth. After beating the bad guy and saving the day Harrison Ford's Indy takes a drink from the fountain and de-ages into Chris Pratt.

I don't actually like this idea, but I'm throwing it out there.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

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Does not have to be a flashback, per se. For instance, at the beginning of the Last Crusade we had lot of time with young Indy that segued into older Indy's story. So in the new movie it can kinda be reversed so we have some stuff go on with Ford's Indy then that ties into something that happed to him in the past (lets say the 1920's ), we then stay with that young Indy. Then the next movie just stays with the young Indy and may or may not feature old Indy. There are many ways this can be done. I'm sure Disney wants this to set up future Indy films.

Staying with young Indy instead of old Indy is basically just leaving old Indy's story hanging and unresolved. If you want old Indy to introduce himself 50 years younger, you're talking flashbacks. Maybe substantial ones, but still flashbacks. I really don't think that's going to be a very popular move.

Umm.. they are doing something like this right now with Star Wars, also owned by Disney/Lucasfilm. They are casting a young Han Solo.

For a prequel movie of his own. Not a Harrison Ford vehicle.

Well if you want an interesting way to spinoff into a younger Indy series, the upcoming film could be titled Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth. After beating the bad guy and saving the day Harrison Ford's Indy takes a drink from the fountain and de-ages into Chris Pratt.

I don't actually like this idea, but I'm throwing it out there.

That would actually be pretty funny. Except it still doesn't solve the problem of 75 yr old Ford needing to carry an action movie entirely by himself and leaves de-aged Indy in a time period where his skills are increasingly less necessary. Unless you combine the fountain of youth with time travel, which is probably a bit too far out there for Indiana Jones.

I think if Disney wants to use this movie to launch a franchise, it will be launching a spinoff franchise about a new character. If they want an ongoing Indy franchise, they'll do a full reboot after this one.

 

[Captaindemotion]

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Could some of his running scenes have been filmed after he broke his leg?
That could also have been the case, since they still had scenes to film with him after he recovered. Maybe he'll be better in Indy!

That did occur to me. And the accident, along with his plane crash (A FREAKING PLANE CRASH, SERIOUSLY!!!!), make me marvel at his vitality. But I'd have thought that if you break a leg in your 70s, it is bound to have some medium to long term effects.

A digital double?

Kinda takes away a lot of the charm of the Jones movies, doesn't it? The CGI in Crystal Skull was fairly universally hated, IIRC. And it's not like he's Spider-man or the like in the first place. They can use stuntmen, sure, but how believable will it be that the man onscreen is carrying out these stunts?

 

[Relayer1]

I see maybe one more fully Ford movie, followed by another with a Ford framing sequence with a younger actor in flashback. If the 'past' part is pre-raiders it would probably be easier to accept the actor and allow future movies to move into the Nazi era.

Anyone who thinks they'll do away with the character and calling the films anything but 'Indiana Jones and the Mcguffin of Something' has no conception of the difference that would make to the box-office.

Disney kept Star Wars in the title of last years movie, and that did quite well...

 

[Tom]

For a prequel movie of his own. Not a Harrison Ford vehicle.

Star War: TFA could also be considered to be a Harrison Ford vehicle, but yet he essentially passed the torch to a younger cast. Just saying don't put it past Disney to try to get young indy in there somehow. If they want to establish a franchise ford can only really be in one of these films.

 

[Commander Richard]

Bringing in Shia was their attempt but it didn't take.

 

[JD]

I think I'd rather see them put Ford's Indy into a mentor role with a younger character getting all of the action. I know it's cheesy, but if they really want to keep the title they could always just call the character Indiana Jones Jr. I know this didn't really work out all that well with Shia Laboef, but I still think there's potential in the idea if it's done right.
As for going into a more modern setting, I don't think that's much of a problem. The character might not be a professor of archeology, but they could always go towards more of a Nathan Drake style freelance relic hunter. The Uncharted franchise proves that you can still tell Indiana Jones style stories in the modern day.

 

[Kirby]

I'm trying to do a weird math equation about this considering whether or not Lucas and Shia are in or out. I let the dumb ending of KOCS dominate my thoughts on the movie, which I thought was pretty good as long as I hit the stop button about 15 minutes before the end.
I like JD's idea of Ford moving into a mentor role, but I keep seeing Chris Pratt in that mentee role, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.
I need a drink.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I actually quite liked the idea of Indy visiting the Mayan civilization. But the execution was poor as it felt like so much more could have been done with it. It felt like such a loss of a potentially good story and setting, given the respect they could have given to the setting. But like someone already mentioned, there was a lack of any sense of danger. If there's one thing I liked about it, it's the way they entered into the temple.

So, with Indy having married at the end of Crystal Skull, here's what I think will happen: They have a child. Being the child of adventurous parents, Indy's son grows up looking up to his Dad as a hero. We might see the beginning where we see him narrating an adventure to his kid, something we haven't seen on the screen before. As the beginning progresses, more and more stories are told. Flash forward about 10 years, so give or take, he'd be around 14 or 15, and he'd be a good enough age to have an adventure with his parents.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Hasn't Frank Marshall said that they won't do a 007 and recast Indy? Not binding, obviously (and I'm not sure how much power he has over it) but it gives some idea into their thinking.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I will base my interest level on who is writing the script.

Any idea for this film can be great or terrible. If the writer knows how to inject a sense of fun into a thematic adventure story and knows the difference between ideas and gimmicks, it will probably turn out well.

 

[Tosk]

he did have sort of an old man's run and gait in the action scenes

Harrison has always had an old man's run. Seriously, even in Raiders he has this odd sort of long stride that keeps his body level at all times. His run doesn't jostle his body.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I will base my interest level on who is writing the script.

Any idea for this film can be great or terrible. If the writer knows how to inject a sense of fun into a thematic adventure story and knows the difference between ideas and gimmicks, it will probably turn out well.

Yes and no, for me. The issue of KOCS was not only the overall script (by David Koepp) but mostly the story beats (which like all Indy films would have been Spielberg/Lucas and the screenwriter, Koepp, building) and then the directorial choices of Spielberg himself - the manic overuse of poor CGI, the miscasting of The Boeff, a general lack of wonder that inhabits even the weakest previous Indy film (Temple).

My interest is how different it will feel given Lucas is not involved and Disney is at the helm. Spielberg has typically worked very closely with his writers, but for the Indy films Lucas had a significant (if not final) say on what kind of story they were going to tell and how it was told (overall). KOCS rang out like the SW prequels to me, with some nice ideas subsumed by silliness, poor story structure, and a blandness to its direction and tone.

A lack of Lucas may be a good thing. It may not. As well made and well acted as The Force Awakens was, it felt safe, pedestrian in its story and took not a single chance by simply following an old trusted formula.

Will Disney reformat Indy in the same mould?

Will Spielberg/Kennedy/Marshall be able to stand up to them and create what he wants. Or be like Abrams and make exactly what they want.


Hugo - …Indiana Jones. I always knew someday you’d come walking back through my door. I never doubted that. Something made it inevitable