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In Praise of M*A*S*H

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I recently programmed a Season Pass on my Tivo to record M*A*S*H on TV Land and have been surprised how much I've enjoyed re-watching episodes I haven't seen in years (dare I say decades?). The show holds up very well and the production values, story lines and acting are as enjoyable today as they were to me as a kid in the 70's. It made me lament how today's TV landscape of police/hospital procedurals, frat-boy comedies, and reality shows doesn't seem to have room for a thinking person's sitcom.

So many great episodes: Captain Tuttle, the loss of Henry Blake, the famous last episode, the episode where the team had to save a soldier in 20 minutes with a clock in the corner counting down in real time (which I just watched last night)...I could go on and on.

So, join me in raising a martini to M*A*S*H and share your thoughts and favorite episodes!
 
^^ Too many to count. I was 4 when the show debuted on TV and I grew up in a time when there were just a few channels so it wasn't uncommon for the early episodes to always be in syndication. Good times! Tuttle was a great episode as was the one where Hawkeye and Mcyntire convinced Frank Korea was full of gold. Oh, and Pioneer Aviation! The Col. Flagg episodes are always good for a laugh.

"My father touched me like that *one time* -- and to *this day* he still has to wear orthopedic shirts."

To this day, the series finale was watched by the largest number of viewers in TV history. No other show has ever matched it.
 
I recently programmed a Season Pass on my Tivo to record M*A*S*H on TV Land and have been surprised how much I've enjoyed re-watching episodes I haven't seen in years (dare I say decades?). The show holds up very well and the production values, story lines and acting are as enjoyable today as they were to me as a kid in the 70's. It made me lament how today's TV landscape of police/hospital procedurals, frat-boy comedies, and reality shows doesn't seem to have room for a thinking person's sitcom.

So many great episodes: Captain Tuttle, the loss of Henry Blake, the famous last episode, the episode where the team had to save a soldier in 20 minutes with a clock in the corner counting down in real time (which I just watched last night)...I could go on and on.

So, join me in raising a martini to M*A*S*H and share your thoughts and favorite episodes!

You have to get the DVD's. There are so many 'missing' scenes that fill in plot gaps. 'The General Flipped At Dawn', probably my fave after 'Tuttle' features an often-cut end-teaser that reveals General Steele's fate after his 'number'. Even the weaker eps tend to benefit from being shown in full. 'Goodbye Radar' shows how Klinger actually nabbed the new generator.

About 10 years ago, as a joke, I wrote a page-long piece that had X-Files Fox Mulder talking to an older man who turned out to be Hawkeye. It started me writing stories--they tend to be out there, with the premise being that the harsh but stable reality of the 4077th is slowly being compromised by the worlds of SF/F. Through it all, the people of the 4077th keep who they are at the core, and for the most part transform those they deal with from the other series a lot more.

Oh, and when it comes to the Seasons 1-3 debate, I fall squarely into 'the show had to change and evolve' camp.
 
^"Stable reality of the 4077th"? Not that stable, when you consider that they spent 11 years fighting a 3-year war, and that events explicitly dated in 1952 take place earlier in character continuity than events explicitly dated in 1951. There's plenty of material for an X-Files crossover even without bringing in other shows. ;)
 
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My dad loves this show and watched it when it originally aired. He got me hooked through the repeats:)

We've got the film and the first four seasons on dvd (Last episode on a video somewhere) and most if not all of the books. I've got to get the rest of the series on dvd at some point:)
 
MASH is one of the best shows ever, and it was able to evoke almost any mood it wanted. I like the first three seasons better because of the more comedic tone, but agree the show would've become stagnate had it not evolved. I think Henry Blake was my favorite character, although Frank was good for a laugh.

too many favorites to mention, most of the episodes were very good, especially in those early years.
 
Another reason you have to get the DVDs: being able to turn the laugh track off automatically improves the show tenfold.
 
M*A*S*H was a terrific show. Larry Gelbart, who is one of theater, TV and film's top writers, co-developed the show for television.

I admit being addicted to the show for its first 7-8 seasons. A few seasons after BJ and Potter arrived, it got too "sledge hammer" preachy for me, but I eventually made it back for the final two seasons. I find those "missed" episodes are a lot more enjoyable now.

It was also early in my writing career, and I liked the show so much I wrote THREE spec scripts for it, including a 90-minute "clip" finale (which Mike Farrell liked). Another of my scripts replaced Radar. I wrote it the day I heard that Gary Burghoff was leaving the series.

Larry Balmagia, a story editor at the time, liked the latter script so much that he invited me to come pitch after their summer hiatus. But he was fired between seasons and I never got the chance to pitch to the show.

I've directed the stage version of M*A*S*H twice, each time having a great cast to work with. And I co-judged an acting competition with David Ogden Stiers about two years before he became Charles Emerson Winchester III.

So, yeah ... M*A*S*H has played a pretty good role in my life, in addition to being one of my all-time favorite TV shows.

--Ted
 
Good point on the laugh tracks - I have found them to be *very* annoying. I don't remember it being a problem when I was younger, but I suppose it was because all shows in the 70's had laugh tracks. I think it's time I make an investment in the DVDs!
 
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The developers of the show HATED the laugh track. While losing the war over it, they at least got CBS to NOT have the track in the O.R. scenes.

--Ted
 
M*A*S*H is a Sci-Fi show! Seriously! It takes place in an alternate universe where the Korean War lasted eleven years.
Also, the eighth season episode "War Co-Respondent" introduced the character Aggie O'Shea, who reminisced about Bobby Thomson's home run which gave the 1951 pennant to the New York Giants. Except that the 1951 pennant race won't happen for the 4077th themselves until the next seasons' "A War For All Seasons". Obviously Aggie O'Shea visited the M*A*S*H unit from the future!
 
Actually, if you go by number of episodes, it was pretty close to three (very compressed) years. Although they had the one episode which covered an ENTIRE year! (New Year's Eve to New Year's Eve) Which kind of really threw the timeline for a loop, making Henry's service actually less than a year.

But M*A*S*H was one of the last major shows which didn't concentrate so heavily on continuity. It was just a weekly series. Remember, Harry Morgan played the wacky general early in the series and then came back as Potter.

--Ted
 
To say nothing of that Avengers issue Radar was reading - the one where Jan + Hank got married.
 
To say nothing of that Avengers issue Radar was reading - the one where Jan + Hank got married.

Oh, yeah. That was from, what, 1968?

But really, the timeline was all over the place. When Col. Potter arrived (and Frank was still present), it was explicitly stated to be 1952. I believe that in the episode shot from the POV of a wounded soldier, we see him writing a letter dated 1953. But then there was that "year in the life" episode with Potter and Charles that was depicted as covering a span from December 31, 1950 to January 1, 1952. And there were other date references in later years that put it in '51 or so. By that point, they were successful enough that they expected to be around for a while, so they retconned it to an earlier date within the war.
 
MASH is one of my fondest childhood memories. Watching it was like hanging out with old friends.

"Did you ever once offer me a lousy cup of coffee?" and Radar's announcement of Blake's death still bring tears to my eyes after God-knows how many viewings. I still smile at the practical jokes(and even giggle a little), chuckle at Hawkeye's zingers in the OR and grin at Col. Potter's homey wisdom.
 
Another reason you have to get the DVDs: being able to turn the laugh track off automatically improves the show tenfold.

Amen, brother!

I watch MASH (at least the first four seasons) pretty religiously. Funny enough, it's what I watch every single night to fall asleep to, and have done so for about seven years now.

While I love Winchester to death, once Frank left the show it became a bit too self-aware, and preachy. My wife separates it in four eras: Henry leaving (End Era I), BJ growing a mustache (End Era II), and then Radar leaving (End Era III). There's something about BJ that is so much more enjoyable before he grew the mustache. Don't ask me how or why, but he seemed to play the character a lot more smoothly beforehand, and then became obsessed and weepy about missing his wife for the rest of the series.

I watch MASH for the laughs, the chemistry, and the wit. Therefore, my all-time favorite team is the Year 1-3 team. The Henry/Trapper/Frank era is prime in my opinion. It has heart without the sermon. Hot Lips is still...well...hot. Frank is epic as ever. The Blake/Radar act is legend. And, above all else, it follows the creed of what I loved about MASH when I discovered it (in 1995) : Hawkeye and Trapper drinking martinis, chasing nurses, and just trying to stay sane. Once they went beyond that is when I start to wane from the show.

Not to say I don't appreciate Potter and is crew. They have their place, and Harry Morgan was a class-act. Of all the actors, he could easily hold his own in a scene with Alan Alda. But, I just prefer the comfort and comraderie of the Blake era. That didn't stop me from buying the insanely expensive "Martinis and Medicine" series boxset.

My favorite episodes are tied between Crisis, Five o'Clock Charlie, and Captain Tuttle.

And for all the hetrosexual fans out there, let's face it: The nurses for seasons 1-3 are simply the best. I mean talk about some h-o-t early seventies babes! I have tried to find whatever happened to some of those actresses. There's one named "Bobbi Mitchell" who plays probably three or four different nurse throughout the first four-or-so years. Yet, I can't find anything about her online anywhere. I loved Lt. Sheila Anderson (introduced in Carry On, Hawkeye... "A new face", "Only one owner"), Nurse Cutler (who later played the wife on Welcome Back, Kotter and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids), and even bought the back-issue of Playboy that has 'Trish-the-Dish' actress Karen Phillips.

I could go on and on about M*A*S*H. And while I'm not a huge fan of the later years, I still love the series with all my heart.

I am very surprised Hollywood hasn't remade a movie yet. Man, think about casting THOSE characters again. Who on earth could play them? I think Ben Stiller would make a great Frank Burns, and funny enough, Bill Murray would be a great Henry Blake. :lol:

Don't know about the main two though (Hawkeye and Trapper). And Radar would have to be an unknown (although years ago I would have said the kid from the movie Almost Famous...
 
To say nothing of that Avengers issue Radar was reading - the one where Jan + Hank got married.

Oh, yeah. That was from, what, 1968?

But really, the timeline was all over the place. When Col. Potter arrived (and Frank was still present), it was explicitly stated to be 1952. I believe that in the episode shot from the POV of a wounded soldier, we see him writing a letter dated 1953. But then there was that "year in the life" episode with Potter and Charles that was depicted as covering a span from December 31, 1950 to January 1, 1952. And there were other date references in later years that put it in '51 or so. By that point, they were successful enough that they expected to be around for a while, so they retconned it to an earlier date within the war.

Here's my MASH timeline, warts and all, based on the real Korean War :

September-October 1950 - Henry breaks ground; Trains Radar
November - Departure of Ugly John, SpearChucker and the reffed-but-unseen TV version of Duke Forrest. Hawkeye appointed Chief Surgeon.
December - 1st Christmas
January 1951-November - Forms the bulk of Klinger's escape attempts, phony tries at types of discharge. Bulk of Burns/Houlihan reports and attempts at ousting Henry. 90% of the first 3 seasons eps take place in 1951.
December 1951 - Henry receives his discharge notice, to take effect the next month. 2nd Christmas. Trapper's notice is issued, but is lost in army mail til the next month. Potter and BJ are informed of their assignments.
New Year's, 1952 - Henry makes a toast to the New Year that Potter repeats a year later.
Early January , 1952 - Formal discharge and subsequent death of Lt. Col. Henry Blake. Hawkeye manages to get a pass to Tokyo (From Burns?). While he's gone, Trapper's delayed orders surface, and he is gone by the time Pierce gets back. Enter BJ.
Late January - Frank is relieved of command by Colonel Potter, who it should be noted, gets no reports written about him. :)
Over the course of 1952, Klinger begins to cross-dress less often, relying on scams for his ticket out.
June - Margaret becomes engaged, ending her affair with Frank.
July 4th - 'You Creamed IT, you NINNY!'
Late July - Hawkeye is reunited with Carlye.
Mid-Late August - Margaret marries Donald Pinobscott. Frank is given leave time, has mental breakdown. Is promoted and sent home.
Early September - Arrival of Charles. Hawkeye and Radar have falling out over his wounding; reconcile. An extended newsreel of the year's earlier Olympics causes one to be held at the 4077th. Charles makes extensive bets on baseball, not truly understanding that the season is mostly decided by that point.
November - The events of 'Comrades In Arms'. By month's end, Margaret has decided to divorce Pinobscott. BJ grows a moustache.
Early December - Margaret's short marriage ends in a final divorce. Depressed before Christmas, Hawkeye invades the peace talks. Charles' sister suffers heartbreak when her engagement is undone by ethnic bigotries.
Late December - All Christmas episodes from S4-S11 fit in here--somehow. :(
Early January, 1953 - Death of Edna O'Reilly's brother Edward; Radar is discharged.
Mid-January - (speculation) Finding out that Zale helped the other unit in 'Goodbye,Radar' steal their backup generator, Potter kicks him out. His sort-of replacement, Luther Rizzo, is a questionable improvement.
May - A would-be beach outing never reaches the beach. When Hawkeye sees a mother smother her newborn infant to keep it from alerting enemy patrols, the pressure of the war finally cracks Pierce, who spends time away from the 4077th recovering.
July - End of hostilities; Dissolution of 4077th MASH.
Early August - Most former members of the unit arrive home.


I'll concede it has holes. But I choose to stand by it.
 
And for a comedy it had some pretty dramatic moments. Can't remember many quotes but on from early on between Blake and Pierce

"In command school they taught me two things. One in war young men die and two, doctors can't change rule number 1".

Then there was the episode where they fight to keep a fatally injured soldier alive so his kids won't have to be told he died on Christmas day,

And while I don't generally care for religious types, there's something about Father Mulcady, while Catholic was always went out of his way for others - from giving advice and counsel to to performing a Jewish ritual circumcision.
 
We love M*A*S*H at my house and... a funny story. My niece saw Major Winchester and said it was my dad, her grandpa! ^^
 
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