I still don't get why the first thing she told Kirk was that her oath of celibacy was on record. Do you have any idea?
Although it probably happened, I do not recall Ilia stunning anyone with her sex chemicals, but then again I have only seen the movie 40 times.
What I mean is, I struggle to see how they could incorporate Spock's death into the plot in a way that had any kind of pathos.
Not very, then.equivalent in usefulness to Deanna Troi's empathic skills.
The novelisation describes Sulu trying to hide an erection caused by Deltan pheromones. The Special Longer Version of the movie shows Sulu fumbling over Ilia's panel, hitting wrong buttons, when Decker asks him to "take Lieutenant Ilia in hand...", which was the scripted version of the scene, but unused by the theatrical.
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The novelisation describes Sulu trying to hide an erection caused by Deltan pheromones. The Special Longer Version of the movie shows Sulu fumbling over Ilia's panel, hitting wrong buttons, when Decker asks him to "take Lieutenant Ilia in hand...", which was the scripted version of the scene, but unused by the theatrical.
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That novel has far too many erections in it. A real glimpse into what Trek would have become without a cold shower on its creator's erection.The novelisation describes Sulu trying to hide an erection caused by Deltan pheromones.
As a proud gay man, Sulu might have considered that to be a criminal assault.
equivalent in usefulness to Deanna Troi's empathic skills.
[concentrating] "Captain, I'm sensing that the Klingon is skeptical of the value of my empathic abilities". [/concentrating]Not very, then.![]()
Prime Universe Sulu was played as a straight man. George Takei agrees. The Kelvinverse Sulu is gay.
Yeah and so did many fans. Of course , there is no reason why Spock had to die. He could have been written out in another way.It's an artefact of the "Phase II" Writers' Bible. Had we seen Ilia as a continuing character, she thus had a mysterious alien power which would/could be utilized in future scripts, equivalent in usefulness to Deanna Troi's empathic skills.
The novelisation describes Sulu trying to hide an erection caused by Deltan pheromones. The Special Longer Version of the movie shows Sulu fumbling over Ilia's panel, hitting wrong buttons, when Decker asks him to "take Lieutenant Ilia in hand...", which was the scripted version of the scene, but unused by the theatrical.
Roddenberry objected to Spock being killed off in ST II. I don't recall his death being a factor in the JFK storyline. However, Sarek sacrifices his life to save Kirk and Spock.
Why can't they both just be bisexual? I'm astonished that this argument goes round in circles so much.
I'm reading this book now based on your description and so far its an excellent novel that provides an enormous amount of context for nearly every question brought up by the first film. I'm looking forward to finishing it!I love TMP, and I feel this is one of the most unexplored eras in the franchise.
For people who feel the same, @Christopher Christopher L. Bennett wrote a Trek novel called "Ex Machina" which was a direct sequel and captures the feel of that era extremely well. If TMP had continued in that mold, I think it would have been pretty cool.
I'm reading this book now based on your description and so far its an excellent novel that provides an enormous amount of context for nearly every question brought up by the first film. I'm looking forward to finishing it!
Well , we've never seen TOS Sulu spurn a man and we've never seen NuSulu spurn a woman so it seems more logical than assuming they are at opposite ends of the sexual spectrum.Because that's something else entirely?
Daniel Craig plays Bond as bi-sexual so your mileage may varyPerhaps they are, but George is the one maintaining that his Sulu was straight, and the actor would know his own interpretation, especially when the writers didn't disagree.
There already is. Parallel universes in infinite combinations are canon. ;-pMaybe someday there will be a nunutrek where Spock will be played by a woman, Kirk is gay, Chekov is bi. Maybe it'll take twenty more years.
Maybe someday there will be a nunutrek where Spock will be played by a woman, Kirk is gay, Chekov is bi. Maybe it'll take twenty more years.
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