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Poll If they admitted it wasn't PRIME?

If they admitted DSC wasnt PRIME...


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Enterprise is a pile of crap. The augment virus is stupid. It was the answer to a question no one asked. It never happened. Klingons have always had bumpy foreheads, and there is no inconsistency between the TOS movies, TNG, JJ movies, and Discovery. End of story.

It is far, far too late for that. And DIS will need its own answers just like every other show did.
 
It goes a lot farther than visual updates. There are entire technologies that are out of place -- like holodecks and holographic transmitters. But most damning of all is the behavior of the crew. Whatever else can be said, these characters do not hail from Roddenberry's universe. They are rude, unprofessional, vulgar Starfleet Officers with questionable morals and almost nonexistent ethics. No matter how you slice it, that's not the Prime Universe. IMO
You're late to the game. Holograms exist in the 23rd Century (TOS). And also rooms that holographically simulate environments. (TAS)
Rude, unprofessional, vulgar Starfleet Officers with questionable morals and almost nonexistent ethics also exist in Roddenberry's 23rd Century. (With in the limitations of 20th Century TV standards)
 
Ethically questionable officer tend to be promoted to captain or higher so other starship captains can deal with them.
 
Enterprise is a pile of crap. The augment virus is stupid. It was the answer to a question no one asked. It never happened. Klingons have always had bumpy foreheads, and there is no inconsistency between the TOS movies, TNG, JJ movies, and Discovery. End of story.
I found Enterprise to be quite lovely, especially the 3rd and 4th seasons. The physical differences in head ridges was canonized as being actual (not simply makeup) in DS9 first; long before Enterprise. Regarding the ridges in the Kelvin universe, that hasn't been officially explained, but I read one producer that described there were evolutionary and bioengineered differences resulting from Praxis exploding 80 years too early.
 
The physical differences in head ridges was canonized as being actual (not simply makeup) in DS9 first;

It was a joke by the writers, for the fans. We all laughed at the inanity. No one expected that some hack writer would suddenly make it a "real" thing in Enterprise, that wasn't so funny anymore.

Regarding the ridges in the Kelvin universe, that hasn't been officially explained, but I read one producer that described there were evolutionary and bioengineered differences resulting from Praxis exploding 80 years too early.

That's just stupider. The ridges are ridges. They don't all look the same. Jesus, our ears and noses don't all look the same. Why should Klingon ridges be so "ridged"?
 
DS9 might have been intended as a joke, but as soon as you put Klingons without ridges back into Star Trek with a Klingon that has ridges, there will be questions and they will require an answer. If they never did that episode, no one would insist on an answer, but people would still be curious if something happened to the Klingons to make they go from looked like they did in the 1960s to how they looked in the 1990s, particularly Kor, Kang, and Koloth, who we saw in both versions on the makeup. Without Trails and Tribbleations, it could be assumed that the "updated makeup only" excuse was the truth and that "Klingons always looked like that". But as soon as you show smooth headed Klingons again, you have opened that box to the question that now has to be asked, and eventually people are going to want an answer....including the writers. Therefore, ENT eventually goes the route of telling the tale of how the Klingons lost their ridges and implied they would figure out how to get them back around the time we start to see ridges again in TMP.
 
There's a reason Lois Lane doesn't wear pillbox hats anymore, and why Clark Kent isn't using a manual typewriter these days. :)

Is it because they don’t match Lois’ hot little outfit and because Clark spilled coffee over his?

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Heck, even in the movies, there was a fair amount of variety when it came to the Klingons. Mark Lenard's Klingon in TMP did not look a lot like Christopher Plummer in TUC.

Doesn't mean the movies were set in different timelines. :)

You haven’t heard of the Specs paradox aeffect on the augment virus?
The theory goes that Arik Soong picked up a better pair of glasses to deal with an eye problem, which led to him not being fatigued during a piece of research. This led to a change in the Augment virus, which led to Very English Klingons (and outbreak from the lab also led to minor cases of Very English Frenchmen.) but this piece of history only came to light after they turned the Federation history servers off and on again after letting them dry out for a bit following the Whale Probe incursion....

Am sure you know about that Greg....

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You're late to the game. Holograms exist in the 23rd Century (TOS). And also rooms that holographically simulate environments. (TAS)
Rude, unprofessional, vulgar Starfleet Officers with questionable morals and almost nonexistent ethics also exist in Roddenberry's 23rd Century. (With in the limitations of 20th Century TV standards)

You're right. Discovery is the epitome of what Star Trek was always meant to be. I stand corrected.
 
I just figured it out. Discovery is like Lost. The whole series actually takes place in purgatory.
 
Looking at the poll results, I'm glad the vast majority aren't bothered.
They can admit or deny, it's of little consequence now. What does matter is that out of approx 5000 viewers on rotten tomatoes, it's getting 53% approval rating. Just read the actual reviews, wow there not holding back on this story.
I would like very much if on CBS all access they forced you to rate at the end of each episode in order to preview the next weeks episode. (1 vote per account) and publish / act upon that poll.
CBS and the writers would get a very clear picture of what Discovery is actually doing to its brand.
 
They can admit or deny, it's of little consequence now. What does matter is that out of approx 5000 viewers on rotten tomatoes, it's getting 53% approval rating. Just read the actual reviews, wow there not holding back on this story.
I would like very much if on CBS all access they forced you to rate at the end of each episode in order to preview the next weeks episode. (1 vote per account) and publish / act upon that poll.
CBS and the writers would get a very clear picture of what Discovery is actually doing to its brand.
I don't think they care about approval ratings or online reviews, they care about subscribers. When they start dropping, things might change.
 
They can admit or deny, it's of little consequence now. What does matter is that out of approx 5000 viewers on rotten tomatoes, it's getting 53% approval rating. Just read the actual reviews, wow there not holding back on this story.
I would like very much if on CBS all access they forced you to rate at the end of each episode in order to preview the next weeks episode. (1 vote per account) and publish / act upon that poll.
CBS and the writers would get a very clear picture of what Discovery is actually doing to its brand.
If you force someone to give a rating, it would not give an accurate picture.
 
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