While having the outfits out during the tour is suspicious, it doesn’t mean much. They could be prototypes they never threw away.
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While having the outfits out during the tour is suspicious, it doesn’t mean much. They could be prototypes they never threw away.
Sure, but if David Mack's idea is carried through, they can be used.
That was his personal way of dealing with it, the show runners probably don’t care much.
They did? I've never heard that. Besides, you said.
Which is why I said
What should the ships look like in a series set 100 years in the past? I would assume they would look at least somewhat different?
I won't watch it in its current incarnation. However, I would be willing to watch if (pick one):
1) Alternate Universe
2) Mirror Universe
3) Reboot
4) Holodeck Accident
5) Scotty drank a wee bit too much
6) Q was bored and changed the gravitational constant of the universe
7) We've all been pranked on an episode of "Quark's Impractical Jokers"
8) Seriously, did you see how much Scotty was drinking?
9) Michael was dreaming the whole thing. She wakes up to find the bridge crew of the Shenzhou right where she left them, complete with gold, red, and blue tunics.
1) Alternate Universe
2) Mirror Universe
3) Reboot
4) Holodeck Accident
5) Scotty drank a wee bit too much
6) Q was bored and changed the gravitational constant of the universe
7) We've all been pranked on an episode of "Quark's Impractical Jokers"
8) Seriously, did you see how much Scotty was drinking?
9) Michael was dreaming the whole thing. She wakes up to find the bridge crew of the Shenzhou right where she left them, complete with gold, red, and blue tunics.
So you won't be watching.
There's supposed to be a holodeck on the enterprise during this time period (TAS). The uniforms are hardly anything to fixate on considering how fast Starfleet changed its entire look between the different movies (and over the course of the 24th cen. shows). The technology is just something that people have to accept, because you can't make a show about the future that looks less advanced than the present - and the only piece of technology they've used on the starfleet ships that is even really questionable is the holocommunicator, which I think has some obvious drawbacks that could easily lead it to fall out of use. And we got the explanation about Sarek in this very episode: he's an odd duck, infamous among the vulcans for his 'experiments' in trying to understand and elevate humans to a vulcan level. No other Vulcan would be willing to raise a human like this.
The only real issue so far is the cloaking device, which has so far only been used once by a truly unique and bizarre ship, and which is obviously a major plot point in general, so it will definitely not go unexplained.
No, we don't have to accept it. You can make a show about the future and have it look less advanced, if that's the universe it exists in. If CBS wanted to show a super-advanced technology and next-evolution Klingons, then the show should have been set in the future 200 years after Voyager. Instead, they chose unwisely, leading to this raft of continuity errors that they currently call Discovery.
Looking at the poll results, I'm glad the vast majority aren't bothered. But I can't help but think CBS would look at those 17 who voted that it'd be ruined and would be glad they kept calling it "prime" despite the endless contradictions because they're getting money which apparently they otherwise wouldn't.
I guess that's why.
It's stuff like this, compounded again and again that's led me to prefer to think of DSC as being it's own continuity (as said before, a Gotham to Batman Begins) rather than "Spock was an idiot in this episode, Kirk was an idiot in that episode, Picard's crew don't know holodecks are 150 years old, Janeway's EMH just didn't know he could go anywhere and nobody bothered to tell him" etc.
I guess that's why.
Yes it's a great episode, but it doesn't fit with what ENT and now DSC have established about Treknology of the "current" (2266), the "past" (2150's)
It's stuff like this, compounded again and again that's led me to prefer to think of DSC as being it's own continuity (as said before, a Gotham to Batman Begins) rather than "Spock was an idiot in this episode, Kirk was an idiot in that episode, Picard's crew don't know holodecks are 150 years old, Janeway's EMH just didn't know he could go anywhere and nobody bothered to tell him" etc.
Ive already stopped watching STD. I was only watching it because they decieved me into believing i was going to be watching Star Trek. Its no more star trek than the Kelvinverse films. the only fixes that will ever make me watch again are:-
1) kill off all the current crew except Lorca and Saru (make sure Burnham does die).
2) Get rid of the current klingons and introduce Augmented Klingons, especially Kang, Koloth and Kor.
3) Create storyline where Klingons (or other race) develop a weapon that can destroy Starfleet ship computers,
similar to tthe Iconian computer virus, that destroys their ships so that the Federation have to return to a more
anologue computer system for all their ships to fit with USS Enterprise design.
Until these changes or similar happen i dont have to waste my time or money watching Star Wars Discovery. Ill wait
until a proper star trek series is made. To all those who enjoy this show keep watching. These are just my rantings.
1) kill off all the current crew except Lorca and Saru (make sure Burnham does die).
2) Get rid of the current klingons and introduce Augmented Klingons, especially Kang, Koloth and Kor.
3) Create storyline where Klingons (or other race) develop a weapon that can destroy Starfleet ship computers,
similar to tthe Iconian computer virus, that destroys their ships so that the Federation have to return to a more
anologue computer system for all their ships to fit with USS Enterprise design.
Until these changes or similar happen i dont have to waste my time or money watching Star Wars Discovery. Ill wait
until a proper star trek series is made. To all those who enjoy this show keep watching. These are just my rantings.
Geez, the announcement that Discovery is getting a second season, really has the kids acting out today.
Now that I want to see. Though we did see something like that in ENT when USS Defiant (NCC-1764) arrived on the scene to fight 100 year out of date starships. But to still be that impressive within her own time would look awesome.
I wonder what the Constitution class ship will look like when we have already seen STDs version of a D7 klingon ship. Chris Pines Enterprise will look like a doppelganger in comparison....
The Federation ships have looked more like they do in other series so far. They exhibit traits from ships from the pre-Federation days as well as some from later in the 23rd century days. The Klingon ships of course look nothing like anything that came before or after.
Also having the Constitution remain basically the same would stand out the most if one wanted to cause the most impact on one's arrival. In no other starships have cylindrical nacelles, and suddenly this one gleaming starship comes in with those big round cylinders, cutting Klingons apart like they are nothing....that would be impressive regardless of one might think of her 1960's era design styling.
Also having the Constitution remain basically the same would stand out the most if one wanted to cause the most impact on one's arrival. In no other starships have cylindrical nacelles, and suddenly this one gleaming starship comes in with those big round cylinders, cutting Klingons apart like they are nothing....that would be impressive regardless of one might think of her 1960's era design styling.
Doesn't make much sense that they would be any more prone to encryption flaws than a regular video signal. It would make no sense to send any more data than is absolutely necessary as the receiving ship still has to use its own emitters to project the image.
Or you could simply judge the show on its own merits. I treat it as a reboot. I don't need CBS to pat me on the head and say they agree.
And, in 2257, the Shenzhou crew wouldn't be wearing TOS series tunics. They'd be wearing the ones from the two pilots.
From our perspective, the viewscreens must have been holographic or something. since if we see them from an angle, we see the side of a person's face while they are still talking to whomever is watching the viewscreen or monitor, while standard 2D image wouldn't allow for us t be viewing the person's check bone and ear from the side while the ship's captain is seeing the person from the front (sometimes at a distance and sometimes zoomed in for reasons).
Yup. Trek viewscreens have always been holographic. Hence the grid on show in TMP, and things like the Ferengi on the viewscreen in TNG. all the novels etc have referred to them as holographic, even the photos we see are meant to be ‘holos’.
It’s fine basically. I have problems with other things in the series (mainly the Klingons. If they just mixed a bunch of normal ones in, that would help a lot. And the ships designs...) but not that so much..especially now they have dialled the communicator holograms back a notch (sareks communication seemed to allow him to interact with the environ he was projected into in the first episodes. Very silly.)
I'm not sure if he was interacting with the environment, or if he ship's computer was compensating for his doing something in his own room. The image does a massive jump across the room and flips around just before he's seen leaning on the desk. Like the computer went "oh damn, he is going to sit on something....better find something around here so it doesn't look like he's sitting in midair, cause that weirds people out." The Admiral does something like that once or twice, like the computer is attempting to shift his location to seem meaningful to the intended viewer, or make them seem like their actions look natural, when they should be facing a totally different direction and pointing in a nonsensical direction.
I don't care either way because I don't give a shit about timelines and I don't think perfect continuity across shows matters either. I care about internal consistency within a show. There's so many compelling things going on in Discovery that are actually about the story and characters. Constant fan anxiety over definitions and timelines is like eating a delicious plate of perfectly cooked pasta and only wanting to talk about the tablecloth.
