I prefered Nemesis

[The Wormhole]

Say what you want about it atleast it was a Star Trek movie, it had the feel to it that XI is missing.

I agree with you in full. Nemesis had depth and complexity to it that XI was missing. When I sit down and watch Nemesis I think "This is Star Trek." When I saw XI I thought "This wants to be Star Trek, but isn't."

Now, Nemesis does have its problems, plot holes and what not, but if you ignore them the movie is quite enjoyable. XI's problems and plot holes stick out like a leading zero and take away any potential enjoyment the movie could have.

 

[urbandk]

Say what you want about it atleast it was a Star Trek movie, it had the feel to it that XI is missing.

I agree with you in full. Nemesis had depth and complexity to it that XI was missing. When I sit down and watch Nemesis I think "This is Star Trek." When I saw XI I thought "This wants to be Star Trek, but isn't."

Now, Nemesis does have its problems, plot holes and what not, but if you ignore them the movie is quite enjoyable. XI's problems and plot holes stick out like a leading zero and take away any potential enjoyment the movie could have.

Sometimes I can't tell if you're joking or serious, man.

Ok, so you think all the other movies were better than Star Wars Trek?

Yes, call me old fashioned but when I go to see a Star Trek movie id like to see a Star Trek movie.

They were talking about you on the TV last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM

Star Trek's version of the Rick Roll.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Was there an alternate version of Nemesis that showed in select markets? The only "feel" I detected was some of my food coming back up in my mouth when I saw it the first time.

 

[Balrog]

Yeah, NEM was a steaming pile of crap. Berman was fine just running the TV shows. They should have gotten a team with a lot more experience writing, directing and producing movies to run the movie franchise.

As far as TNG's forray into movies - Damn! What COULD have been...

 

[KirkusOveractus]

^ I agree. When TNG went to the Feature Film division in Paramount, there should have been some transition team or more people with film experience in a higher control level.

The TNG movies (with the exception of FC) were TV episodes, essentially, and not even good ones.

 

[indranee]

yeah, FC was okay.

 

[urbandk]

yeah, FC was okay.

with an emphasis on OK. i couldn't even watch it a week or two ago. i rented it, put it in, and soon after i was like, "i'd rather do something else... read a book or go for a walk maybe."

 

[indranee]

it's just the afterglow of you-know-what

 

[Squiggy]

yeah, FC was okay.

with an emphasis on OK. i couldn't even watch it a week or two ago. i rented it, put it in, and soon after i was like, "i'd rather do something else... read a book or go for a walk maybe."

See what JJ has done? He's ruined all other Star Trek movies.

DAMN YOU JJ!!!

 

[Balrog]

Even FC became a disappointment. It had cheap production values as far as a sci-fi movie is concerned that were easily transferred to Voyager's later seasons. I kept wondering, as a fan, why they would think it was OK to make movies at the same quality they were producing on a TV show for an audience to view FOR FREE and still expect people would want to pay.

 

[cybersoldier]

I like Nemesis as well, and I enjoy Star Trek XI, but the one thing that kinda took me out of the movie was the engineering, I'm sure the budget was more that the usual 60-70 million budget for a trek film. Would it be to difficult to make engineering set for a 23rd century starship and not look like one out of a sewer system for a major city or brewery. Also at least Nemesis had some story in it I truly like and if Berman wasn't producing it and had a better director the film would have been different, but I still loved the film. Star Trek XI is more of the fun ride nothing but a good time, I hope by the next film it will have more of a story into it, the SFXs are right on.

 

[indranee]

yeah, FC was okay.

with an emphasis on OK. i couldn't even watch it a week or two ago. i rented it, put it in, and soon after i was like, "i'd rather do something else... read a book or go for a walk maybe."

See what JJ has done? He's ruined all other Star Trek movies.

DAMN YOU JJ!!!

exactly

but thank god TWOK is still gold!

 

[The Wormhole]

The TNG movies (with the exception of FC) were TV episodes, essentially, and not even good ones.

While I agree that the TNG movies were weak as movies in general, two of them (Generations and Nemesis) were good stories and actually enjoyable to watch.

First Contact and Insurrection on the other hand, I'd rather not discuss.

 

[CorporalClegg]

but thank god TWOK is still gold!

Link?

 

[number6]

I thought the opening sequence was amazing. The rest dropped off a cliff fast and degenerated into a C- TNG episode.

 

[Lord Lunacy]

Say what you want about it atleast it was a Star Trek movie, it had the feel to it that XI is missing.

 

[ConRefit79]

I think what you sense missing is your familiarity with the actors.These may be the same characters, but they're played by different people. The same goes for the ship design and some of the sets.

 

[Hober Mallow]

The guy playing Shinzon wasn't bad, but I couldn't see him as a Picard clone at all. The story was just awful. I can imagine the writers breaking down the story. "Picard gets a clone!" "Well then... Data gets a clone, too!" "Yeah, Picard and Data both get clones!"

I tuned in the about ten minutes of it on AMC before I had to flip over to Emeril Live.

 

[number6]

Oh, and BTW, I preferred Moonraker...


...to Nemesis.

As did I.

I prefer Battlefield Earth to Nemesis.

Um.. No.

 

[CorporalClegg]

He is right though, Nemesis did have one thing that his was missing:

"The Whatsit and the Thingamajig are out of phase. I have to recalibrate the Doohickey in order to bypass the malfunctioning retroactive tertiary gobbledygook and adjust the siphon coils to a negative point-zero-zero-zero-two-six-eight microns then match the Hobbergobber to the backup failsafe something-or-other systems."