I officially began my journey through all Star Trek on October 9th...
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Whilst Drive wasn't the best episode to show it, I was happy with the increased attention to Tom and, in particular B'Elanna in the final season.
Lineage was excellent! One of my favourites of the season easily.
Inside Man: This is like... the fourth time they've had Barclay show up on VOY? Third time we've seen Troi? Not that it's a bad thing, just... how many times can you bring them back before it stops feeling special? Still liked it though.
Nightingale: I love how they go out of their way to find such a convoluted plot to get Harry in the captain's chair. I have a solution and, trust me, it's really simple...
PROMOTE HIM! IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS! THE GUY DESERVES IT!
It gets so much more pathetic for Harry once you realize that at this point in time Nog is a full Lieutenant if not a Lieutenant Commander and decorated war hero. Harry is outranked by someone we met as an illiterate street child, and an imprisoned felon! Harry is the proof positive of the axiom "What Janeway has, Janeway Keeps!"
Yeah, they got a bit heavy with Barkley's use towards the end. You are not completely done with Barkley or Admiral Paris yet, but what remains isn't quite so forced and flows naturally from the story.
As good as Lineage is, it's direct followup is Prophecy, which you should almost be at. It's... got issues. Not the least of which is it contains the single most disturbing scene in Star Trek since the Janeway Paris Lizard sex babies. Oh and it manages to make Harry even more pathetic.
From there it's a pretty strong run up through Workforce 1 and 2. The Void is one of the series standouts. Another of those episodes that makes you weep for what Voyager should have and could have been. It has a lot in common with the better episodes of Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica.
I felt like it was all Tuvok could do not to kill Neelix when he saw the state of his quarters.
You will really love Ron Moore's BSG if or when you get around to it. (At least he first two seasons. Three and Four can be a more mixed bag.) Also probably Farscape. Both shows play with that premise of ships a long long way from anything friendly, with extremely limited and deteriorating resources far better than Voyager ever did with any regularity. With BSG being the far more extreme example.
Is The Void the one where they come upon a long stretch of space with no stars? Then it goes something like...
Janeway: "Plot a course straight through it. maximum warp. Don't stop for anything."
Paris: "Captain, there's a spatial anomaly at blahblahblah..."
Janeway: "All stop, let's take a look."
I remember screaming WHAT???? at the Tv.
Janeway: "Plot a course straight through it. maximum warp. Don't stop for anything."
Paris: "Captain, there's a spatial anomaly at blahblahblah..."
Janeway: "All stop, let's take a look."
I remember screaming WHAT???? at the Tv.
But Janeway is an Anomaly addict.
Second only to her coffee addiction.
Second only to her anomalies with coffee in them addiction.
Of course, she'll stop for that.
Second only to her coffee addiction.
Second only to her anomalies with coffee in them addiction.
Of course, she'll stop for that.
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Is The Void the one where they come upon a long stretch of space with no stars? Then it goes something like...
Janeway: "Plot a course straight through it. maximum warp. Don't stop for anything."
Paris: "Captain, there's a spatial anomaly at blahblahblah..."
Janeway: "All stop, let's take a look."
I remember screaming WHAT???? at the Tv.
Actually no. In it Voyager gets sucked into a seemingly inescapable void. A Sargasso Sea like place of nothing but stranded ships fighting each other stealing and pillaging each others resources in order to survive. It's actually a very dark survivalist themed episode. Very much what Voyager should have been. 'What will they do to survive?" "Where are the limits?"
Unexpected is one word to describe it.
The other words tend to get censored.
It's amazing how much damage they can do with that one awkward concept in three episodes. It also makes the scene in Timeless where he and his soon to be erased new girlfriend are rooting around looking for parts in Seven's rotting skull all the more icky.
Oh... Neelix left
I'll be the first to admit it, I've given the character some shit before. I think many of you would agree that the guy could be an annoying little shit, but that was largely in the first few seasons of the show and he later became a big part of the stories on-board Voyager. His relationship with Naomi was adorable for one. One of my favourite scenes of the episode is him asking Naomi if she wanted to hear a bedtime story, and of course realizing she's no longer a little girl. Damn near got me choked up. His friendship with Tuvok was also fun... for the most part. Namely when he wasn't doing weird shit like wrecking Tuvok's bedroom with a large Klingon woman
As for Phillips, he's a great actor, and he kills it in this episode. It's a very touching send-off for the character and a large part of it came from his acting. The final goodbye scene where Neelix leaves the turbolift and walks through the corridors lined with the Voyager crew is one of the most poignant in the series and a well-deserved farewell.
I still remain amazed that Neelix was able to escape Janeway clutches alive, unharmed and by all appearances unflayed. "What Janeway has, Janeway keeps!" My Working theory is Janeway felt it would be a crueler and more unusual experiment to actually put him in charge of his very species survival. She likely hid cameras everywear and hopes to sell the footage, once they start eating each other, via the Ferengi pay per view holodeck network. After all a girls gotta plan for retirement!
^I've heard it said before that it was odd to have such a humorous episode for the next to last.
Is trekbbs not working right for anyone else? I can't access the main trekbbs.com page I get the page is down error. My only way of accessing is through an email notification and then jumping to whatever topics are in my watched threads, I can't even open up individual forum pages like general discussion, (or support or I'd be posting this there....)
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Be warned, while it can be a bit fun, it is nowhere close to "What We Leave Behind" and certainly not "All Good Things". On the positive side it brings back what or rather who was arguably the second best movie villain. (Khan remains supreme.) The plot has some major major holes to it. Glaring ones. Especially right at the end. You may have to rewind the last few scenes a few times to try to figure out what the heck just happened. It won't help, but you will do it anyway.
About the best that can be said of it? It has some decent action and effects. Some kick ass battles, and it's an ending. It at least focuses mainly on the ships core plot, main characters, known villains and more or less gives some closure. While a pale enunciated and occasionally infuriating shadow of TNG and DS9's final bows, it at least stands several full orders of magnitude above "These Are the Voyages".
I know you remain committed to watching in broadcast order. I would suggest one slight deviation at this time. Watch Nemesis next, before starting on Enterprise. It really is the closeout of the TNG/DS9/Voy era, and it includes the final Coda to Voyager. Better to watch it here and now. In spite of how we pick on it, Enterprise is a good entertaining SciFi show. With a lot to like and comment on. But it is visually and tonally very very different from the TNG era. More of a hybrid that sits somewhere between TNG and the JJAbrams nuTrek. Stepping back into TNG in the middle of it feels more disconcerting than it should in much the same way that STV felt strange sitting in the middle of TNG. (which may in fact be one of the subtler flaws with Nemesis.)
I look forward to reading your thoughts in Endgame. I suspect based on things that have caught you attention for the past two seasons, that you will have a lot to say.
I think all Treks have failed to make the big, powerful finale that we expect of them. TOS might have managed it, given a chance. (I think of the closing shot from space in unremastered All Our Yesterdays as TOS's final moment, because it almost is, give or take an episode... and it works perfectly as that.) Voyager's and Next Gen's are just about equally fascinating and disappointing to me. DS9's only works better than those because it actually concerns itself with concluding a story arc, so it's mostly scenes we absolutely had to see, rather than a new story contrived just to be a weepy finale.
Enterprise time! 
Broken Bow is actually good.
So a nice way to get over the disappointment of Endgame.
So a nice way to get over the disappointment of Endgame.
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