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I am investigating the world of Online Dating.

She said that over time, even though she wanted to ask, she saw me more as a big brother.
I always cringe at that. :wtf:

Once I hear that, I run for the hills. She might be all cool with big brother nonsence, but not me, if I act all cool with that, I'd be lying to her and to myself, so I pretty much end everything there and so on. I got enough female friends, to the point of it being embarrassing.

Mean to say, yes....but one gets fed up of hearing the dreaded F-word over and over.

In my case, we were friends a lot longer than she had that crush on me, so we just defaulted back to a friendship. She's a sweet person, funny, and while I do find her attractive, she's getting married to my best friend. That being said, she isn't the last person I'll ever find attractive, and she has some issues anyway that I'd rather not deal with in a relationship, so I think it worked out for the best in this instance. When I give the ring to my best friend to put on her finger, I will do so gladly and with great joy.

J.
 
I don't think you understand what I'm getting at.

The feeling is mutual.

Apologies. I was simply concerned that the posts here were reflecting an attitude of "men must have this role in a relationship", an attitude which- along with the wider ideology of limiting masculinity to a few set "types" that I read in other posts upthread- has a lot of personal significance for me.

No worries, but please try to to project so much. Consider posters based on what they say, not some personal context.
 
The feeling is mutual.

Apologies. I was simply concerned that the posts here were reflecting an attitude of "men must have this role in a relationship", an attitude which- along with the wider ideology of limiting masculinity to a few set "types" that I read in other posts upthread- has a lot of personal significance for me.

No worries, but please try to to project so much. Consider posters based on what they say, not some personal context.

I apologise. It is very difficult for me to accept that not everyone is the sort of person who simply spouts off thoughtless conformity rather than thinking things through. It is also very difficult for me to accept that not everyone is dangerous to me on the basis of who I am. Trusting other people is difficult for me particularly when I feel like I do at present. I'm sure when I feel better I'll regret most of my niggling in this thread.
 
Sorry to break it for you, bub, but you are most definitevely not a nice guy. You rants here and your behaviour in your own anecdote make it quite clear. Beer-guzzling punks are not the only type of "bad guys". The passive-aggressive judgmental pricks can be as much as annoying.
How about if we make our points without insulting people, please? Thank you.
 
Well I tried one those free sites and started talking to a girl. She seems more like friend material, but does sound like a good person to have fun with. Maybe we can get some Guitar Hero going on this weekend.
 
To those of you who have tried online dating and failed...

Did you meet people that you had awesome conversations with online, but then the relationship kind of fell apart once you met them in person? Also, how long did you wait before setting up a real date with them?

Or did you just not meet anyone worthwhile at all?

I ask because this girl that I'm talking to almost seems too good to be true.

First girl I met through Match was really great on IM. A lot overweight, though. Great girl, we still hang out sometimes, but there's no attraction on my end.

At the moment I'm talking to three different girls on Match....one I'm met (mentioned up-thread). She seems nice but was a bit tough to read. The other two I'm still feeling out.

As long as it's just emails I don't mind talking to several girls at once. The big trick is going to be *allowing* myself to feel attraction for any of them without accompanying guilt over the others.
 
Well I tried one those free sites and started talking to a girl. She seems more like friend material, but does sound like a good person to have fun with. Maybe we can get some Guitar Hero going on this weekend.
Take her to Rays.
 
As long as it's just emails I don't mind talking to several girls at once. The big trick is going to be *allowing* myself to feel attraction for any of them without accompanying guilt over the others.

These people are all so random to me that I don't really care feeling attraction towards one and not another.

I've also gone in with the mindset that these people are potential romantic partners. I need to focus on that because I will allow them to just become friends if I don't.
 
RoJoHen, its nice that you are trying the online dating:bolian:. Im curious, what website(s) are you using?

Theres been some talk in this thread about dating and also this thing called "nice guys".
I am one of those nice guys. Im from Finland and I have never dated or had sex with finnish women. I had horrible luck with women. My feelings where always one sided and my heart was broken everytime. I had some female friends, though and tried blind dates...that where horrible. I still wonder why It never worked.
I was convinced that I was the ugliest guy in the world and was feeling very down about it. Though I was allready feeling shit before and my self-esteem was completly destroyed by years of bullying at school. I knew that women dont like men with low selfesteem nor they like when men are too eager..I was ofcourse both:alienblush:
Anyway, after years of misery I decided to try a penpal site. I wrote with many women and met there a woman from Spain. We wrote few months and fe noticed that we had crush to eachother....later we met in person and fell madly in love. One of the best weeks of my life, for sure. We where togheter for three years and then it ended..which was horrible.
I went back to the hit and miss game with local women and then finally decided to try online dating and eventually met my current gf from there and its been three years now. She is from Czech and very wonderful.
So, online dating works often well..you need patience but eventually its rewarding:techman::)
Here is the site I was using. Its very nice and fun to use also:
http://www.okcupid.com/home
 
I've been doing the online dating thing for about a year now, with mixed results. That's partially my fault. I'm picky. Not so much about what a guy looks like, but how he connects with me on various levels (intellectually and emotionally being top priority). I won't even consider a relationship with a guy unless he's an intellectual equal and a relatively decent person with ambition and priorities that don't simply include me. To top that all off, there's got to be chemistry. Strong chemistry almost right off the bat. That's a tall order, I know. But this is why dating is difficult. It's got to be there on so many different levels. I'd rather be perpetually single than in a relationship with someone who I'm not happy with.

Anyway, my experiences over the past year, for what they're worth:

I've communicated with lots and lots of men. Went on a bunch of first dates and weeded out the "booty calls," the "just friends," and the "pseudo-stalkers." That left the potential relationship-worthy men for second dates. From there, a handful turned into "dating," which generally lasted about a month, but ultimately went nowhere (9 times in 10, it was me dealing the "we're better off as friends" blow, which trust me, sucks for the dealer as well). One guy I was dating regularly lost interest and stopped calling altogether. True mark of a tool -- someone who doesn't even have the balls to make a phone call and say, "Look, we've been going out for about a month, but I'm just not feeling it anymore." But he was the exception, not the rule.

I met one guy who ended being my boyfriend for a couple months. He was a great guy...quite fantastic, and on paper, everything I was looking for in a partner. But the passion died (for me) after several weeks. He had a hard time understanding why he still felt it and I didn't, and I can't say I blame him; I was at a loss myself. So I broke up with him. I feel bad about that, but again...it was only fair to be honest.

I've tried three different sites now. Yahoo Personals was where I had the best luck, I think. I met the guy who was my boyfriend as well as a couple of the month-long "dating" men on that site. Match.com has a LOT more people on it, but therein lies the hit-or-miss part. Because it's so popular, and because it's so easy to use, it's attractive to the types who simply want to use it for hooking up. I met a bunch of "booty call" types and the "date for a month, never call back" dude on Match. Still, I know it's possible to find great people on there, because I know plenty of friends who have. I probably just didn't give that site enough time. However, now I'm trying out eHarmony. It's definitely different from any of the other dating sites out there. The initial Q&A and the process of sending questions back and forth before being able to communicate openly with your matches will definitely frustrate the people just looking for an easy lay. You also cannot search for people on the site -- you only get to communicate (or deny communication with) the matches their system sets you up with. So, there's an appeal there for people who are serious about finding relationship/long term material.

Whatever the case, love happens for everyone when the time is right. Dating can be frustrating and discouraging. It certainly has been for me, and I'd like to think I'm pretty normal. Just hang in there and keep putting yourself out there.
 
Pffft...why is it that I see people doing well with dating sites, yet all I get are train wrecks when I go on these?
It's a real mystery

When I read that answer and combined it with your avatar, all I can think of is that moment in Nemesis when Picard, Worf and Data are on the planet and Worf picks up Data's arm, and Data says "I believe that is an android arm", and Worf replies "Very astute". Best line in the movie. :lol:


J.
 
Pffft...why is it that I see people doing well with dating sites, yet all I get are train wrecks when I go on these?
It's a real mystery

When I read that answer and combined it with your avatar, all I can think of is that moment in Nemesis when Picard, Worf and Data are on the planet and Worf picks up Data's arm, and Data says "I believe that is an android arm", and Worf replies "Very astute". Best line in the movie. :lol:


J.


Don't diss the Emperor Dalek, he'll exterminate you and use your remains as a rug for his chamber. :evil:

I never got to see Nemesis yet, I gotta pick that up, now. :bolian:
 
I found online dating to be bogus. Though PlentyofFish was refreshing. For once I didn't feel, going around the site today and yesterday thanks to RoJoHen recommending it, that I was looking at countless fake ads placed just to get people to join, like pay dating sites, or a bunch of fake prostitutes abusing the service. It seemed like there were mostly honest-to-goodness real girls there.

Sadly the selection wasn't that great for my wants, and the only girl I would even remotely consider, smokes, so I counted her out. But it definitively seems like something to check up on occassionally.
 
I went to the plentyoffish site to take a look and wee what it is you folks are talking about but you had to register to say much of anything. So I did that. But then you had to fill out a little info. So I did that. And then I had to fill out a profile. By that point I figured I might as well fully commit. :lol:

I was surprised by the amount of cuties nearby. This has the possibility of being interesting because I don't like dating women at school too much; if the relationships ends in disaster you still have to see them often. Nothing may come of this but we'll have to see.
 
Oh, and Kestra, we live close enough to each other now that you should be actively trying to hook me up with your hot, single friends. :p

What's your type? All my single friends are getting snatched up! One of the best ones just got taken; you've got to move fast!
 
I might check out PlentyOFish.

One thing that really bugs me about the search and match functions of many of these sites is that it often seems as if my criteria are basically ignored. I keep getting matches of woman that I wouldn't remotely consider even if they were the last on Earth. Yeesh!

Sorry for sounding so harsh, but it's honest.
 
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