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How would you re-imagine the NX-01 Enterprise?

The NX-class ship isn't what I would have come up with, but I think it looks great. My only gripe with its design is the weird bulgy things at the aft ends of the nacelles.
 
FalTorPan said:
The NX-class ship isn't what I would have come up with, but I think it looks great. My only gripe with its design is the weird bulgy things at the aft ends of the nacelles.

Yeah. They're so unlike the weird bulgy things on the ends of the nacelles on the Ent-Nil.

:wtf:
 
My "NX-01" would have followed the design aesthetic of NASA combined with the more rugged industrial look of modern naval vessels. No primary colored neon lights that are always on, just a faint glow from the front of the nacelle and maybe some 'electric blue' pulsing on the inside of the nacelles when going to warp. The hull would be light gray, with visible paneling but not stepped.

The deflector/sensors on the front would be an array of parabolic dishes and antennae inset and appearing heavily guarded inside hull cowling, possibly retracting when not at warp to avoid the risk of stray space junk in orbit. There would likely be some lighting inside the cowling just for looks.

Weapons would be retractable explosive-slug-firing turrets, a directional EMP and tactical nuclear torpedos. Later, the need for energy weapons able to penetrate shields would be used to transform the EMP into something more directly offensive.

Basic form would be centered around the saucer, and look clunky enough to expect it never to enter orbit. Nacelles would NOT be swept back. Hard to say the exact shape I'd go for. I'd lean towards something that doesn't look pretty, but has more of a tank-like appeal. Solid. One of my main complaints about the NX-01 was the front-heaviness of it. the pontoons and nacelle struts were sticks and the nacelles rather small. With them raised above the saucer section it made it look rather fragile compared to the heavy armored look of the front.

I might have a few visible tanks and hatches and greebling on the back and bottom of the ship, but not enough to give it the BSG/SW look.

Really though, the weakness wasn't the tech on-board or the design aesthetic. It was the form, the basic shapes of the ship. Fix that and you fix the problem without having to change anything else.
 
Trekker4747 said:
FalTorPan said:
The NX-class ship isn't what I would have come up with, but I think it looks great. My only gripe with its design is the weird bulgy things at the aft ends of the nacelles.

Yeah. They're so unlike the weird bulgy things on the ends of the nacelles on the Ent-Nil.

:wtf:

Take a closer look. They're quite different.
 
I guess I should plug one of my designs too...

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This was basically "The NX must be recognizable and based on the Akira" as handed down by TPTB, if it were handed down to me, Mr. TOS fan. :D
 
ancient: I dig it. A lot. I could almost see your ship and mine being part of the same fleet together. Mine would be a frigate/destroyer while yours would be a full-blown cruiser.
 
Superman said:
I continue to maintain to this day that the Enterprise production staff already had a great design for their Enterprise, but for some reason (i.e., The Killer B's) they had to ignore it.

I refer, of course, to the SS Conestoga.

conestoga2al8.jpg

I love this ship and would love to take a stab at modelling it. Does anybody know of any additional images from different angles of it? www.starshipmodeler.com has two additional pics, but I'm looking for some from the back and bottom of it.
 
Icy_Penguigo said:
ancient: I dig it. A lot. I could almost see your ship and mine being part of the same fleet together. Mine would be a frigate/destroyer while yours would be a full-blown cruiser.

Yes, that's one of the reasons I like your ship. We (and many others around here) have similar ideas about early starship designs.

I can't really model stuff in 3d though, so I'm a bit envious. :p
 
Venardhi said:
My "NX-01" would have followed the design aesthetic of NASA combined with the more rugged industrial look of modern naval vessels. No primary colored neon lights that are always on, just a faint glow from the front of the nacelle and maybe some 'electric blue' pulsing on the inside of the nacelles when going to warp. The hull would be light gray, with visible paneling but not stepped.

The deflector/sensors on the front would be an array of parabolic dishes and antennae inset and appearing heavily guarded inside hull cowling, possibly retracting when not at warp to avoid the risk of stray space junk in orbit. There would likely be some lighting inside the cowling just for looks.

Weapons would be retractable explosive-slug-firing turrets, a directional EMP and tactical nuclear torpedos. Later, the need for energy weapons able to penetrate shields would be used to transform the EMP into something more directly offensive.

Basic form would be centered around the saucer, and look clunky enough to expect it never to enter orbit. Nacelles would NOT be swept back. Hard to say the exact shape I'd go for. I'd lean towards something that doesn't look pretty, but has more of a tank-like appeal. Solid. One of my main complaints about the NX-01 was the front-heaviness of it. the pontoons and nacelle struts were sticks and the nacelles rather small. With them raised above the saucer section it made it look rather fragile compared to the heavy armored look of the front.

I might have a few visible tanks and hatches and greebling on the back and bottom of the ship, but not enough to give it the BSG/SW look.

Really though, the weakness wasn't the tech on-board or the design aesthetic. It was the form, the basic shapes of the ship. Fix that and you fix the problem without having to change anything else.

I really like this concept! I especially find energy weapons coming from EMP weapons as an inspired notion... One of my main gripes was that nothing on the NX seemed reinforced enough... I wanted something that suggested that Starfleet or whoever) wasn't sure how well the ship was going to hold together at 'high' warp. Meself, I would have liked to have seen nacelles 'strapped' to the hull.

Which makes me wonder what a saucer with two nacelles attached at the port and starboard rims would look like...

(A bird of prey, I know.)

NO SERIOUSLY! A nacelle at either side of a clunky saucer, strapped with a strut above and a strut below, also directly connecting to the rim, with impulse rockets extending at roughly the position where the 'catamarans' were on the NX. It might even be interesting to have a conning tower rather than a bridge...

Hm, I think this might be a cool idea... I may have to draw what I mean.

And Ancient good to see the 770 again! I do love that ship.

:rommie:
 
Vektor's Vanguard design is the only way to go. Barring that, his April Fools E (minus the turrets syndrome) woulda been okay.

Vektor really should be working for Paramount...
 
the SS Conestoga is the ship I was thinking about. I just couldn't remember the name.

:wtf:

The aft part of the hull is a mixing of DS9's Defiant NX ship.

Ancient, great design! :thumbsup:
 
Brutal Strudel said:
Vektor's Vanguard design is the only way to go. Barring that, his April Fools E (minus the turrets syndrome) woulda been okay.

Vektor really should be working for Paramount...

Much as I do love the NX-01, if it had to be any other ship, that would be the one I would want to see as well. His design for the Vanguard is amazing!
 
Praetor said:
It might even be interesting to have a conning tower rather than a bridge...
I posted this back in May, but the pre-TOS concept I came up with before ENT was even conceived of has a conning tower on top of a saucer:
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(The image says 2002, which is after ENT started, but I came up with the concept much earlier.)
 
I like the ESS Aldrin design, particularly the blending of the saucer and conning tower - a nice evolutionary element. I'm not quite as enamored with the "Discovery" middle section, I think moving the aft engineering section immediately behind the saucer section would look good, imho. Nice design! :thumbsup:
 
Brutal Strudel said:
Vektor's Vanguard design is the only way to go. Barring that, his April Fools E (minus the turrets syndrome) woulda been okay.

Vektor really should be working for Paramount...

The April-E with turrets would kick ass. I may be a touch of purist, I am also an artist myself.

As Chris Reid's girlfriend might say:

"Greatness is greatness sucka!"
 
Irishman said:
I suppose this might work:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/Irishman/Canopussfb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/Irishman/Canopusbottom.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/Irishman/CanopusTop.jpg

Of course, I designed this to try to bridge the gap between the actual NX and the Daedalus-era. Still, it could stand on its own as a re-imagining of the NX herself.

Irishman,

I really like your Canopus concept.

There is, however, one thing that your Canopus shares with the Akiraprise that never looked right to me:

The double passageways that lead back to the almost-Reliant-style rollbar engineering section all seemed too busy and off-balance for me. More than anything else about Archer's ship the whole are assembly between the nacelles looked too TMP or TNG for me.

Maybe it's just me, but it seemed that if the NX-class had any hull/pod aft of the saucer, it should've been a more tubular secondary hull (a small one, of course), maybe shaped like a DYellow submarine hull, connected to the saucer via a single dorsal shaped like the DY conning tower. Mabe the impulse engines could've been mounted on wings on either side of the tower.

I've been trying to draw it in pencil to see if I could get the idea to make sense, but so far I haven't had much time.
 
Brutal Strudel said:
Vektor's Vanguard design is the only way to go. Barring that, his April Fools E (minus the turrets syndrome) woulda been okay.

Vektor really should be working for Paramount...

I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of seeing this design.

Could someone please post a sample of this?
 
Superman said:
I continue to maintain to this day that the Enterprise production staff already had a great design for their Enterprise, but for some reason (i.e., The Killer B's) they had to ignore it.

I refer, of course, to the SS Conestoga.

[image]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8261/conestoga2al8.jpg[/image]

A lot of folks here have disagreed with me over the years about this, but I look at this ship and think it's got a familiarity and a new grace and sense of personality, which is something Enterprise as a whole was sorely in need of.

I look at this ship and I can see her reflecting what TOS said about the era of the Romulan Wars, about what was going on one hundred years before. All she needs is some UESPA signage and a name other than "Enterprise" and we'd be good to go.

My two cents.
That is a neat design. It would seem to fit better. :)
 
Wingsley said:
Brutal Strudel said:
Vektor's Vanguard design is the only way to go. Barring that, his April Fools E (minus the turrets syndrome) woulda been okay.

Vektor really should be working for Paramount...

I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of seeing this design.

Could someone please post a sample of this?

Th thread seems to have been pruned from the BBS, but I did manage to find a similar thread HERE. It's pretty badass! hope we eventually see the finished product.
 
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