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How would you have liked Voyager to end? (Spoilers)

See, the scene in the conference room where Harry talks about how the journey was important to them, perhaps as much as actually getting home... I thought that set up the ending perfectly. We see that the journey has become more important than the destination. Particularly once they established regular contact. It would then be just a VERY deep space assignment.

I personally would have cut out all the time travel crap and set the story up to have Janeway have to make the choice to destroy the hub after finding out it led to Earth, to mirror the decision she made in Caretaker. I would have had her make the decision with the input of everyone in meeting, which would have kept Harry's speech. Maybe have them be able to slip through another transwarp conduit, bringing them within 5-10 years from home. The ending would be a close up of Janeway sitting in the chair, looking around at everyone, smiling and saying, "Tom, set a course... home."
 
Yes, Janeway did make a decision that would potentially have led the Borg to destroy Earth.

We see that the journey has become more important than the destination.

Also, I agree that this was an overlooked element of the show that could have made it better. It was an important theme in Whedon's Firefly and I would argue that it contributed to the popular success of the series (though it was cancelled early).
 
What I'd have enjoyed seeing

Janeway - Court martial. Stripped of rank and sent to a penal colony for the rest of her life.

The Maquis - Trial. 5 years imprisonment for all. Chakotay gets 10. Dies in prison.

Tom and B'Elanna - Split up after B'Elanna goes to jail. Tom dies in a shuttle accident a few years later. B'Elanna gets out of prison and moves to Qo'Nos to embrace her Klingon side. Dies in glorious battle soon after.

Tom and B'Elanna's daughter - Fully grown by the age of 8 (like Alexander from TNG/DS9) she grows up on the streets and becomes a career criminal.

The Doctor - De-activated. Holograms aren't real people.

Harry - Thrown out of Starfleet along with the rest of the Voyager crew for blindly following Janeway's orders. Becomes a professional clarinet player.

Tuvok - Returns to Vulcan after being thrown out of Starfleet. Gets a fatal illness and dies soon after.

Seven - With the Borg decimated and defeated, Seven reforms the Collective and becomes the new, peace loving Borg Queen.
 
I would have liked to have seen them figure out a way to make the transwarp or slipstream work safely. But have it take the whole final season because they could only make short jumps at a time. Having to trade for materials and supplies. Having to make repairs because it's still a big stress on the ship and engines.
 
The episode starts with the usual Voyager flyby, this time accompanied by classical rendition of Hotel California.

Our first real scene is on the bridge with all the usual suspects in their regular places. Janeway and Chakotay are having a good wholesome, family friendly (but possibly slightly racist) conversation with forced laughter at unfunny jokes, and remarks that are decidedly not witty.

A spatial anomaly is detected which sensor readings say definitely looks like a spatial anomaly that Tom would name after Harry's second girlfriend. Tuvok declares that it could be dangerous, but Janeway decides to take the ship in closer to get better readings. Chakotay says something that Robert Beltran will probably regret later on.

OPENING CREDITS

As Voyager gets closer, Torres calls the Bridge and says that technobabble is going wrong and they shouldn't get closer. Seven gets on the line and says Torres is dumb, and her super cool Borg modifications can totally make it work. Janeway sides with Seven. In the interlude, Tom goes to the holodeck with Harry to play out more bad 50's Scifi that might have been adorable when it started, but is now just kind of sad.

At this time it's revealed that the anomaly is having an effect on the psyche of those aboard the ship, and everyone temporarily becomes lucid. Janeway realizes that being so close to an anomaly is a bad idea, and that they should back away and fire a probe at it instead. But with that train of thought, she starts thinking about torpedoes and how they magically keep reappearing. Which leads to shuttles magically reappearing, and what do you mean we can't tie in power from the holodecks?

As the crew starts to realize that none of this should be possible, and that there's no way that they're actually where they think they are, the Caretaker appears in the captain's chair. Banjo and all he tries to convince them that they've been in some weird holodeck-simulation thing the entire time. The crew call bullshit, having been fooled for seven years they aren't about to take him at face value.

The Caretaker grins and snaps his fingers

It was Q the entire time, and humanity was still on trial.

They were found guilty.

CUT TO THE FUNERAL

Plot inconsistencies involving the anomaly are never expanded upon or explained.

For realz, I don't think I could just change the ending of Voyager, and be happy with any changes from what they did. Everything past like...season 2 would have to be changed for me personally to be really satisfied with any making it home story. Play up the ham big time. Voyager was always stuck on a level where the cheese was just cheesy in a way that makes me embarrassed to watch the show because dear god the humor was lame. It was never delightfully cheesy on a consistent basis the way it could have been like Bride of Chaotica. Go full tongue-in-cheek. Do some satire, have some fun. Go for more of the fun action-adventure TOS-ish feel and step out from TNG's shadow. It doesn't need to be like TNG, or go the dark and serial route like DS9. Something more consistently lighthearted and episodic would have been nice after how seriously the other two series take themselves.

And that's really how I would have liked Voyager to end. No big Borg thing, no time-travel, no technobabble, or talking about Starfleet protocols. Some good character moments, some good fun, and a nice upbeat ending. Maybe something extended to allow us to look at the characters readjusting to life off of a tiny starship, but not for too long.

To be fair though I don't really mind how the show ended, I just don't really care. Episodes like Timeless had essentially covered the same ground, and done it better. By that time, I didn't really care about the characters, and I didn't really whether they made it home or not. Voyager was always stronger on the individual episode level, like the aforementioned Timeless, for me. Really from the list of episodes that people generally put in their top ten lists, it could have just as easily been an anthology series with different characters. I could care less about the overarching story and the vast majority of the series which careened from forgettable to automatic skips on rewatch. Which still puts it miles ahead of a lot of other scifi from the time frame in my book.

TL;DR- it was meh ending but I don't think it could have been anything but meh without some serious work being done much earlier in the series.

Or y'know just have it end with a pan out to reveal that it was a story being read by one Benny Russell's descendants, who has achieved the success and respect his/her forebear was denied by the kind of society that is the antithesis of the best ideals that ennoble the Trek franchise. IT'S ALL INTERCONNECTED AND META AND STUFF.
 
I think they could have done End Game without the future stuff. Voyager finds the Borg hub and Seven informs them it'll get them home. In an all or nothing effort, they upgrade the ship using technology they discovered in the Delta Quadrant like the weapon they used to stop Species 8472 to combat the Borg, Transwarp configurations to get through it, maybe slip-stream shielding, etc. With all the crap they been through, I think they didn't need future Janeway's help.
 
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On Once Upon a Time Last night...

The Wicked Witch of the West, punched into the Scarecrow's face with an open fist, extracting Scarecrow's brain with a swift tug. Dead Scarecrow. HA!
 
Wasn't there a thread which touched on this subject already?

Yes, it already did. :whistle: The last time, I remember to have written that I would have wished to hear in voice-over, at the same time as we saw the vessel approaching the Earth heavily accompanied by the fleet of Starfleet, Janeway addressing to her troops a last time to thank them (including those who had been killed during this journey) for their courage & their dedication during all these years; to tell them that it has been a great honor for her to serve them and to remind that the crew of Voyager was one family and each was to be able to rely on the others.

Sigh. Anyway, I would've liked a conclusion which wrapped up the crews' journey through the Delta Quadrant. What did Janeway learned from her stupid decision to destroy the array? Would Chakotay and the Maquis decide to make a break for it as they got close to the Alpha Quadrant? And Tuvok discovered those possible actions. Would Star Fleet command press charges on the terrorist acts the Maquis crew had done and how will Janeway resolve this?
Harry Kim finally getting a promotion; his services on board the ship should've been enough for him to get one.
How would the Riker wannabe Tom Paris handle his wife could possibly be behind bars for being a terrorist, and what about their baby?

Interesting but it would have supposed a 8th season to answer to these questions... if only producers & wirters have been enough involved to give answers, wouldn't it? Yet, we know that the end was more or less botched to jump better in the following stage, a new series of the saga Star Trek.

We can only imagine what could happen:
If the Federation is still at war, it will need qualified officers to win the conflict and in this case, it will be more inclined to forgive the members of the Maquis, in reinstating them in Starfleet in order to use their knowledge/experience.
Otherwise, the chances are that Chakotay, Torres & Cie are pursued for high treason towards the Federation and end in prison or worst, the death penality.
In both cases, it is certain that Janeway and Tom's father will use their influence to help them (to avoid them the life imprisonment or the death, especially if members of the Maquis are still considered like criminals) .
-> for my part, I think that they will be "invited" to join the civil life and in this case, Tom will follow his wife and will leave Starfleet. It seems to me that this new life would suit them perfectly in view of their respective character! :whistle:

As for Janeway, even if she will have to be accountable for some of her inconvenient decisions-making, she will eventually be cleared and will be appointed Admiral. :techman:
 
I think it needed to end with the consequences of their 'extended stay' in the delta quadrant, perhaps some sort of trial anaylising the command decisions from the start to the end and tie up the statuses of the marquee and the equinox 5.
 
I have no idea how it "should" have ended. One alternative ending could be something like...

Voyager crashing and irreparably damaged on a planet's surface. Something like the Timeless crash, but with most of the crew surviving. Some of them struggle to come to grips with never getting home. In the end, Janeway reinforces the "family" theme of the show. Something like -

"Who knows if we'll ever leave this planet? We may still get back to Earth someday. When we started this journey, none of us expected to be here, but here is where we are. As long as we're together, we ARE home."
 
The episode starts with the usual Voyager flyby, this time accompanied by classical rendition of Hotel California.

Our first real scene is on the bridge with all the usual suspects in their regular places. Janeway and Chakotay are having a good wholesome, family friendly (but possibly slightly racist) conversation with forced laughter at unfunny jokes, and remarks that are decidedly not witty.

A spatial anomaly is detected which sensor readings say definitely looks like a spatial anomaly that Tom would name after Harry's second girlfriend. Tuvok declares that it could be dangerous, but Janeway decides to take the ship in closer to get better readings. Chakotay says something that Robert Beltran will probably regret later on.

OPENING CREDITS

As Voyager gets closer, Torres calls the Bridge and says that technobabble is going wrong and they shouldn't get closer. Seven gets on the line and says Torres is dumb, and her super cool Borg modifications can totally make it work. Janeway sides with Seven. In the interlude, Tom goes to the holodeck with Harry to play out more bad 50's Scifi that might have been adorable when it started, but is now just kind of sad.

At this time it's revealed that the anomaly is having an effect on the psyche of those aboard the ship, and everyone temporarily becomes lucid. Janeway realizes that being so close to an anomaly is a bad idea, and that they should back away and fire a probe at it instead. But with that train of thought, she starts thinking about torpedoes and how they magically keep reappearing. Which leads to shuttles magically reappearing, and what do you mean we can't tie in power from the holodecks?

As the crew starts to realize that none of this should be possible, and that there's no way that they're actually where they think they are, the Caretaker appears in the captain's chair. Banjo and all he tries to convince them that they've been in some weird holodeck-simulation thing the entire time. The crew call bullshit, having been fooled for seven years they aren't about to take him at face value.

The Caretaker grins and snaps his fingers

It was Q the entire time, and humanity was still on trial.

They were found guilty.

CUT TO THE FUNERAL

Plot inconsistencies involving the anomaly are never expanded upon or explained.

For realz, I don't think I could just change the ending of Voyager, and be happy with any changes from what they did. Everything past like...season 2 would have to be changed for me personally to be really satisfied with any making it home story. Play up the ham big time. Voyager was always stuck on a level where the cheese was just cheesy in a way that makes me embarrassed to watch the show because dear god the humor was lame. It was never delightfully cheesy on a consistent basis the way it could have been like Bride of Chaotica. Go full tongue-in-cheek. Do some satire, have some fun. Go for more of the fun action-adventure TOS-ish feel and step out from TNG's shadow. It doesn't need to be like TNG, or go the dark and serial route like DS9. Something more consistently lighthearted and episodic would have been nice after how seriously the other two series take themselves.

And that's really how I would have liked Voyager to end. No big Borg thing, no time-travel, no technobabble, or talking about Starfleet protocols. Some good character moments, some good fun, and a nice upbeat ending. Maybe something extended to allow us to look at the characters readjusting to life off of a tiny starship, but not for too long.

To be fair though I don't really mind how the show ended, I just don't really care. Episodes like Timeless had essentially covered the same ground, and done it better. By that time, I didn't really care about the characters, and I didn't really whether they made it home or not. Voyager was always stronger on the individual episode level, like the aforementioned Timeless, for me. Really from the list of episodes that people generally put in their top ten lists, it could have just as easily been an anthology series with different characters. I could care less about the overarching story and the vast majority of the series which careened from forgettable to automatic skips on rewatch. Which still puts it miles ahead of a lot of other scifi from the time frame in my book.

TL;DR- it was meh ending but I don't think it could have been anything but meh without some serious work being done much earlier in the series.

Or y'know just have it end with a pan out to reveal that it was a story being read by one Benny Russell's descendants, who has achieved the success and respect his/her forebear was denied by the kind of society that is the antithesis of the best ideals that ennoble the Trek franchise. IT'S ALL INTERCONNECTED AND META AND STUFF.
LMAO!!!! I love it.
 
The reset button/paradox manipulator breaks, unleashing a shitstorm of forgotten/ignored plot elements/threads/devices and characters, which threatens every quantum reality there is. Spearheading the destructive maelstrom of reality is the Borg Baby, whose thirst for revenge at being wiped from existence knows no end.
 
Just have the last episode be them all gathering at Janeway's home on Earth many years in the future reminiscing about old times and how they made it home.

Never explain HOW they got back, just that they did.
 
Janeway - Court martial. Stripped of rank and sent to a penal colony for the rest of her life.

yeah...nu-BSG Ronald D. Moore-as-showrunner finale would probably have had Janeway put on trial. Dramatically interesting....

but I would have been happy at time for them just to get home and be fêted (without any temporal bullshit) :)
 
Niaomi had another growth spurt, and now looked like a still jail baitish 19 year old.

The final episode revolves around her wedding to Harry.
 
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