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How Would Discovery Have Been Different?

Dryson

Commodore
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If the Discovery had jumped into the 32nd century, sans the Burn, how might the 32nd century have looked in your opinion?
 
A super-Federation would rule over everything. It would look like a combination between how things looked in "Relativity" (VOY) and the Commonwealth in Andromeda.

Discovery wouldn't be integrated into the Fleet. It would be decommissioned on the spot. In the actual version of Season 3, Starfleet needs Discovery. In this version, it doesn't.

If left unchecked, the Federation would be like Wal-Mart, where it expands to the point where its competition either disappears or goes belly-up. The Federation would have a monopoly over the galaxy. The Burn, IMO, broke up that monopoly.
 
If it went the WalMart route, you know the Ferengi would be in on that action, assuming the "Rom Era" failed to gain any traction.
 
Well they'd still have the dilithium shortage.

Kurtzman said that before the Burn the federation was as strong as ever.
 
Well they'd still have the dilithium shortage.

Kurtzman said that before the Burn the federation was as strong as ever.

If the Burn didn't occur when the KSF Khi'eth visited the nebula, the dilithium nursery might've been exploited right then and there.
 
Still, the pressure on Ni'Var, coupled with the post-Unification social upheaval, may still lead to a temporary withdrawal from the Federation.

Taking non-canon licensed works into account, something must've happened to deprive the Federation of the galaxy-wide Iconian gateway network controlled in the 2410s, plus the Federation-wide transwarp network from the 2400s. (STO)

There must also be a reason - something better than the penetrable Galactic Barrier - that kept the Federation from expanding to other galaxies.

In the last VOY novel - set the TrekLit continuity recently overruled by PIC - Voyager partners with the Edrehmaia, who can provide unlimited benamite recrystallisation - and sets forth to explore a nearby dwarf galaxy in 2382. One could argue that in the canon timeline, the Project Full Circle expedition to the Delta Quadrant did not occur, thus the Federation and the Edrehmaia miss out on each other.
 
Still, the pressure on Ni'Var, coupled with the post-Unification social upheaval, may still lead to a temporary withdrawal from the Federation.

Taking non-canon licensed works into account, something must've happened to deprive the Federation of the galaxy-wide Iconian gateway network controlled in the 2410s, plus the Federation-wide transwarp network from the 2400s. (STO)

There must also be a reason - something better than the penetrable Galactic Barrier - that kept the Federation from expanding to other galaxies.

In the last VOY novel - set the TrekLit continuity recently overruled by PIC - Voyager partners with the Edrehmaia, who can provide unlimited benamite recrystallisation - and sets forth to explore a nearby dwarf galaxy in 2382. One could argue that in the canon timeline, the Project Full Circle expedition to the Delta Quadrant did not occur, thus the Federation and the Edrehmaia miss out on each other.

Very interesting.
 
I expected to see a lot more androids, humans living for centuries in cloned or android bodies, and maybe not a ban on time travel but a restriction on the time travel that threatens the timeline, and only travel that creates a new timeline (like the Kelvin Timeline) allowed. Long range transporters across different systems, and completely perfected medical technology. Detmer's implant would have been the first to go as 32nd medical tech can cure her injuries organically just like that.

Also, the Federation should have been ready and waiting and expecting Discovery. Bashir's eradication of Section 31 in the 24th century would have meant the Federation has done away with shady deals and secrets like those that hid Discovery, and it would have been revealed Spock and Pike had set things in motion for Discovery to be welcomed and cared for upon their arrival.
 
I expected to see a lot more androids, humans living for centuries in cloned or android bodies, and maybe not a ban on time travel but a restriction on the time travel that threatens the timeline, and only travel that creates a new timeline (like the Kelvin Timeline) allowed. Long range transporters across different systems, and completely perfected medical technology. Detmer's implant would have been the first to go as 32nd medical tech can cure her injuries organically just like that.

Also, the Federation should have been ready and waiting and expecting Discovery. Bashir's eradication of Section 31 in the 24th century would have meant the Federation has done away with shady deals and secrets like those that hid Discovery, and it would have been revealed Spock and Pike had set things in motion for Discovery to be welcomed and cared for upon their arrival.

I like this.
Also, the Federation should have become a Type III merger of civilizations by then easily (actually way sooner than that... by sometime in the 25th century at the latest as they certainly had the technology to build Dyson Swarms at least even before First contact), with on its way towards becoming Type IV and being extra-galactic by spreading to most nearby smaller galaxies and also Andromeda).

Transwarp beaming should have taken off by Star Trek Picard.
Much faster Warp, Quantum Slipstream, TW, Coaxial Warp... all propulsion methods merged together so a ship can choose from a plethora of options of which method to utilize, or use a hybrid of all those technologies which created a new type of engine.
No reliance on M/AM or dilithium... those would have been put in the dust bin by the end of 24th century and considered akin to fossil fuels already.

Humans living for centuries? Nah... full fledged biological immortality actually should have been a thing by the end of 24th century already with people choosing how long they want to live and whether or not they want to die.

EDIT: I'd also posit that most technology would have been atomic or subatomic... see how they merged the tricorder, transporter, and commbadge into one? Yeah, all of those, including power cells and replicator would be atomic in size and networked together billions or a trillion times, woven into the skin or possibly the clothing by the 32nd century (actually, by the 25th or 26th most likely)... it would be a massive array of endlessly copied and interconnected miniaturized technologies [billions of tricorders/sensors, replicators, transwarp transporters, comms, etc. networked together) that would give a person exquisite capabilities/range/efficiency and control over matter with practically 0 possibility of removal unless the one trying to remove it all wants to actually kill them in the process (how many times have we seen comm-badges and other technology taken away from SF officers by other aliens? Heck, even Discovery showed this flaw again).
 
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Wasn't USS Discovery declared destroyed, by necessity, so Control wouldn't go looking for it somehow to try to get the Sphere data from it, and Spock, Pike, and anyone else who knew the truth sworn to secrecy about it's actual fate?
Considering I doubt even Control buys that story, all it needed to do was assimilate a Betazoid and read Pike's mind to find out. The fact that no one's allowed to discuss Discovery or her crew on "penalty of treason" would add even more suspicion.

This would be like if people were not even to talk about the USS Melbourne after the Battle of Wolf 359. You don't do that to a ship that was destroyed. That just raises more questions than it suppresses.

Pike and Spock may as well have just written a giant neon sign saying "Hi Control, Everything is Fine Here (TM). Perfectly Fine. How Are You?" (Han Solo in Star Wars: A New Hope style).

To be fair, it was established as far back as TOS that Spock and Pike liked to go overboard with their "classified info" punishments. I mean punishing a visit to Talos IV with the death penalty? Really?
 
Considering I doubt even Control buys that story, all it needed to do was assimilate a Betazoid and read Pike's mind to find out. The fact that no one's allowed to discuss Discovery or her crew on "penalty of treason" would add even more suspicion.

This would be like if people were not even to talk about the USS Melbourne after the Battle of Wolf 359. You don't do that to a ship that was destroyed. That just raises more questions than it suppresses.

Pike and Spock may as well have just written a giant neon sign saying "Hi Control, Everything is Fine Here (TM). Perfectly Fine. How Are You?" (Han Solo in Star Wars: A New Hope style).

To be fair, it was established as far back as TOS that Spock and Pike liked to go overboard with their "classified info" punishments. I mean punishing a visit to Talos IV with the death penalty? Really?
I mean, it worked with the Pegasus.
 
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