Just didn’t feel very Trek like to me. I do agree the time loop episode was good, but their music selection sucked. That and the one they rescue Sarek were the two episodes I liked.
AP, as someone who generally agrees with you on a lot of things, @XCV330 actually hasn't said any of those things. You're making assumptions and generalisations and implying that he is saying those things but all he's said is that the topic you're both arguing about is more nuanced than what is being presented. That is no where near the same as what you're implying he is saying which is that he is openly supporting racism and genocide. I think that is really uncalled for especially as you're a mod. Naturally, if you make unsupported accusations against someones character, you have to expect them to defend themselves.
Better we got that party with that music than just another sedated gathering of people listening to a quartet. I always felt Ten Forward should have had music playing all the time. For whatever reason it was too much treated as a place for monks, with the only background noise being the A/C.
Remember by the time we get to the 24th century, people have become Dullards. Just look at what they call clothes.
By the time we get to that Picard show I wonder how many will complain that people in that show are suddenly acting like they have a pulse. "NOT MY STAR TREK! I WANT PEOPLE TO BEHAVE LIKE THEY ARE ON VALIUM!"
The 24th century is not a place I'd want to live with that fashion sense. Discovery and the Kelvin movies got non Starfleet civilian wear right.
Making them more human like is the one concession I can make for the future shows. I would love to see someone wearing a Superman shirt around. I swear I see someone wearing one almost every day.
DSC hits all the notes I expect from Star Trek: 1. Outer space mystery and adventure 2. Characters who have chemistry and interesting relationships 3. Special effects, bad guys, scenery chewing and pew pew 4. Good twists and reveals 5. Stories about the human condition and having your principles challenged
It shouldn’t be ”pew pew” though. That’s Star Wars. It should be “peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew... peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew”
Trek has indulged in "pew pew" plenty prior to 2009. The continuous phaser beam was just more prominent in the past. I like that when we saw Mudd killing Lorca in that montage we essentially saw all the different kind of phaser beams that TOS did, with all the colors and variations.
I don't have time for a big reply right now, so I just wanted to say that, even though I disagree with a bunch of what you wrote, this was a real good post. Thanks for writing it.
XCV330, what Possum initially said about US history (and continuing through to today in many respects) was simply a statement of fact as far as I can tell. You may not agree with it, but as she says, she was just making what should have been a fairly non-controversial statement. If you'd like to engage further on the issue you can take it to TNZ like she's suggested. Likewise Possum, instead of saying you don't want to discuss the issue, you can just not discuss it after the first couple times. Also, while the difference is subtle, try and avoid making personal accusations and just stick with explaining the historical record. Thanks.
I think the "honor" of the most dragged out ship-to-ship and phaser-to-phaser battles to the point where I thought it just became mind-numbing goes to Star Trek: Nemesis... from 2002. If I'm not invested in what's happening, and nothing is resonating with me, then the action becomes really boring, really fast. There were points in the theater where I thought to myself, "Please just make it stop!" In retrospect, I'm not sure if I was thinking of whatever scene I was watching or the whole film in general. I was in college and went with a bunch of friends. So it would've been weird to just up-and-leave. But none of us was too super-thrilled with the film. I think JJ Abrams is used as too much of a scapegoat. The movies were already heading in the direction of non-stop action long before he showed up. The only difference is, it suits Chris Pine a lot better than Patrick Stewart.