Hoshi versus T'Pol

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by iliescu, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. teacake

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    I am a big Hoshi/T'Pol slasher. With each rewatch the tension is more obvious :lol:

    So no, there's no versus. They're both excellent and interesting.
     
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    And to think I was going to unwatch this thread
     
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  3. teacake

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    Well it's true isn't it, there's T'Pol constantly provoking Hoshij for.. what reason? Attention.

    It must have been hard for her when the trellium hit and all those feelings really took over.
     
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    I was so busy wondering why Reed didn’t put up more of a fuss over Trip that I didn’t think about T’Pol & Hoshi.

    Trip didn’t know what to do with Phlox's wife Feezal so I’d guess he would’ve totally been confused by Reed lol.
     
  5. sekundant

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    I studied, worked and lived at many countries, I am still living in abroad. So, I am used to be an "alien" since my early adulthood. I would say, at the very beginning I never thought cultural differences can be a huge issue. Even if you can speak language perfectly, if you don't know good enough about popular culture, history, literature, geography, religion, etc. , you wouldn't understand half of the jokes/gestures of your colleagues. Well, if you couldn't find a solution, you wouldn't be a part of the community or in worst case you will be isolated and surely fail all your targets. I have my experiences and now I became a master for this game. So, I can understand T'Pol's attitude mostly and she is definitely not arrogant for me, her cultural codes are different than the community.
    At Broken Bow almost every character is more agitated/aggressive/out of the role than the personalities that we learn at next four seasons. For a pilot episode which is very understandable. Nevertheless, I never get fully, why T'Pol stayed with those bunch of disrespectful, bigheaded space amateurs.
    I wish Hoshi's character development was better written. Why should Hoshi must be so weak, so anxious, so girlie girl? She has an academic career, multicultural experiences and we we learnt at the very end, she is not an innocent baby. Why should she act/feel so insecure so long time?

    Maybe she was upset from Hoshi's under performance, unprofessional reactions like me? :wtf: (Well, someone who works in men dominated business, who has to be muuuuuch more better than random male to get the same position, I can totally follow her reactions. I have to admit, as a mentor I am more skeptic about the works of junior female engineers, I know how hard will be their path to success.)

    At the ENT Bible they planed for both characters a sister-like relation, why TPTB gave up this idea? Instead of stories done before they should gave us a Hoshi/T'Pol episode. :brickwall:
     
  6. Merlyn Emerald

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    I am amazed and envious of Hoshi's language skills, but she is a bit boring. I choose T'Pol - she's more visible, interesting... and in general I like Vulcans. :)
     
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