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Heroes 3x16 "Building 26" Discuss and Grade

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I think Tracy only figured out that she was set up after she was put back in and had time to think it over.
 
5. HRG losing his touch? Somehow, despite being a very skilled operative, HRG managed to be tracked and captured by three people with no experience whatsoever in doing either one. I guess I can understand getting drugged, since I don't think he would have trained to avoid that. But doesn't he have any experience in shaking a tail? I'm sure Peter, Matt, and Suresh would have been easy to notice.

This one I'll write off as his being preoccupied with being kicked out of his house, his marriage on the rocks and his guard being down. I did miss, however, how they managed to drug his drink. The bartender seemed surprised he slumped over, and looked not to be involved.
 
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Matt could have taken control of the bartender's mind and distracted him/her (I forget the bartender's gender) somehow. Or perhaps he made the bartender drug the drink and then erased the memory of it (can Matt do that?).
 
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Matt could have taken control of the bartender's mind and distracted him/her (I forget the bartender's gender) somehow. Or perhaps he made the bartender drug the drink and then erased the memory of it (can Matt do that?).

Matt can make people see what he wants them to see. He possibly made the bartender think no-one was there as he was putting the drug in the drink.
 
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Matt could have taken control of the bartender's mind and distracted him/her (I forget the bartender's gender) somehow. Or perhaps he made the bartender drug the drink and then erased the memory of it (can Matt do that?).

Matt can make people see what he wants them to see. He possibly made the bartender think no-one was there as he was putting the drug in the drink.

Good point. For some reason I didn't consider this possibility.
 
Does anyone know when the new writers will take over?

Looks like Byran Fuller's first episode back will be this season's episode 20.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr...sion/news/e3i5a49077a0f8280a05381cedfd646ed1a

That'll give the writers the job of writing the last 6 episodes of the season. I only hope that they won't be pressured to add lots of kewl plot twists and action in the closing episodes like what happened with Villains. Season two was too slow while Villains was extremely rushed with lots of dropped storylines.
 
Does anyone know when the new writers will take over?

Looks like Byran Fuller's first episode back will be this season's episode 20.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr...sion/news/e3i5a49077a0f8280a05381cedfd646ed1a

That'll give the writers the job of writing the last 6 episodes of the season. I only hope that they won't be pressured to add lots of kewl plot twists and action in the closing episodes like what happened with Villains. Season two was too slow while Villains was extremely rushed with lots of dropped storylines.

This is where is should get veeeery interesting. I wonder how much revenue this show is bringing in. Their budget must be huge. Are they going to pull off 5 seasons/volumes as promised?
 
Does anyone know when the new writers will take over?

Looks like Byran Fuller's first episode back will be this season's episode 20.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr...sion/news/e3i5a49077a0f8280a05381cedfd646ed1a

That'll give the writers the job of writing the last 6 episodes of the season. I only hope that they won't be pressured to add lots of kewl plot twists and action in the closing episodes like what happened with Villains. Season two was too slow while Villains was extremely rushed with lots of dropped storylines.

This is where is should get veeeery interesting. I wonder how much revenue this show is bringing in. Their budget must be huge. Are they going to pull off 5 seasons/volumes as promised?


I'm sure the show does very well overseas and sells well on dvd so I'm not sure why it won't at least go that long. NBC schedule isn't filled with high rated shows these days. With Jay Leno taking over the 10PM slot starting in a few months NBC really can't afford to lose the show right now.

They can always kill some of the main cast if they want to trim the budget. The show has gotten too big for it's own good at times.
 
I think we should just wait until the next few episodes before passing judgment on how easily they got to India. How do we know it wasn't "Rebel" making it easy for them?

Ok, if Rebel did send them there, why did he do it? Hiro didn't get his powers back! All he did was call off a wedding. Whoop-de-do
 
And then he sent them a fax for something else. IE, let's see where it goes next before we condemn the whole thing.
 
I think we should just wait until the next few episodes before passing judgment on how easily they got to India. How do we know it wasn't "Rebel" making it easy for them?

Ok, if Rebel did send them there, why did he do it? Hiro didn't get his powers back! All he did was call off a wedding. Whoop-de-do

How would "Rebel" be able to help Hiro if he didn't even know about Matt's drawing of Hiro in India in the first place? Last I checked only Mohinder and Hiro saw that picture.

I really hope they dump the future paintings/drawings next season. They should have stopped using them after the first season. Talk about the writers being lazy.
 
Above Average.

When you see the pattern of good writers who know what's wrong with the show and trying to fix it, alternating weekly with crappy writers who just make things worse, Sylar's speech in the diner was hilarious subtext. "I have no frakkin' clue what my motivation is. It's almost as if I'm trapped in a nightmarishly badly written TV show, where the writers can't agree on what I want or who I am. All they know is, they can't kill me off because they'd lose half the viewers they haven't lost already."

So this week, we got a good writer, who not only was trying to salvage poor, poor Sylar by having him point-blank explain himself (apparently his problem is really just lack of familial acceptance rather than his powers making him eeeevil - at least for now) but even tried doing something about the Bennett Merry-Go-Round by having Sandra lay down the law and kick Noah out of the house. Hopefully this will result either in a long stint of reconciliation with Claire, or estrangement. Either would suit me fine, but pick a character arc and stick with it, already, dammit!

But even this week's writer could think of nothing useful to do with Hiro, who hasn't had a point since S1 (if he had a point then). He's been written so far into a corner that William Shakespeare couldn't salvage him. Kill. Him. Already. Please!

On the updside, Luke isn't turning out so badly and Alex the Aquaboy appears to be a keeper (and looks oddly like he could be related to Sylar...? Naaah....

I would've liked it if Nathan really was the one behind Tracy's failed escape. It might draw a nicer dichotomy between him and Peter: Nathan is a self-viewed pragmatist whose gradually becoming more Machiavellian
They haven't laid the necessary groundwork for that development to be plausible. They haven't even laid the necessary groundwork to make Nathan hunting down his former allies and brother plausible, although it wouldn't have been difficult to do so. The writers on this show are too busy negating the progress the others try to make to actually put together a coherent, dramatically satisfying storyline like that. This show is like a boat without a captain, veering into the path of icebergs...
 
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I've almost had it with this show. How many times will they do the story of Claire's father hunting people with powers to protect Claire and her family? How many times will Nathan change his mind about what he wants to do in his life? How many times will Hiro and Ando go on some stupid little adventure? How often will Sylar be the big bad that's always hunted and on the run while he makes stops here and there to kill people and take their powers.
 
I've almost had it with this show. How many times will they do the story of Claire's father hunting people with powers to protect Claire and her family? How many times will Nathan change his mind about what he wants to do in his life? How many times will Hiro and Ando go on some stupid little adventure? How often will Sylar be the big bad that's always hunted and on the run while he makes stops here and there to kill people and take their powers.

Individual episodes are often fun in a mindless way, assuming you really like at least some of the characters, and find the premise engaging (which is why I'm hanging in there). But this show desperately needs (and has needed, since S2) someone who is actually in charge of the overarching story and character arcs, and can provide essential things such as a direction for each major character and for the story as a whole; good pacing with solid payoffs for plot points that are set up; not to mention paying attention to basic issues of consistency and logic between episodes.

I have no idea what Kring is doing, but he's clearly not doing that job, and neither is anyone else. In a few episodes, Bryan Fuller takes over. Based on Pushing Daisies, Fuller has no difficultly handling the big-picture elements of a complicated serialized show, with a lot of interacting and very specifically drawn characters. Based on that alone, I still have hopes for a turnaround.
 
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