Has this ever been addressed on any of the modern Trek shows?

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  1. publiusr

    publiusr Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I have this idea that—for the holodeck to work…you need a very..unsettled…form of power…something all in a state of flux….like something right after the Big Bang…a lot of virtual winking in and out. Nearly the power of creation.

    For engines—you want that power constant…down to the last watt.

    Pliability is the key I suppose.
     
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  2. The Wormhole

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    At this point the holodeck is basically a shipboard TARDIS. Best not to put any further thought into the matter than you would trying to figure the TARDIS out.
     
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  3. at Quark's

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    Hm, wondering now.... could the holodeck be capable of projecting its own power generation system to supply it with power? (similar to how those wristband-transporters are capable of transporting themselves too, in some way)
     
  4. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Honestly, I totally buy the in-universe explanation as to the holodecks' separate power source.

    Picard is absolutely correct: Having the holodecks available for the crew to let off steam during a crisis is vital to the morale of that crew.

    True, the OUT-of-universe reason is so the old shows could have "holodeck gone wrong" episodes no matter how much damage the ship took, but that doesn't really matter anymore. PIC made a good case for it.

    So there. :p
     
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  5. The Wormhole

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    Unless it, you know, distracts the crew to the point of preventing them from solving the crisis.
     
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  6. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Photons are not exotic.

    Photons are everywhere.

    I was thinking of suicide bombers for that Voyager double Flesh and Blood.

    Photon Torpedoes make for a big bang.

    These freedom fighters are made from photons.

    Surely they just need to stick a lit candle up their butt and wait, right?
     
  7. Tosk

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    Or if you're in a crisis where being able to power one more system could mean the difference between life and death. Who would want to transfer power to critical systems when you can sit on a fake beach until you die? ;)

    (Picard doesn't specifiy that the holodeck power is incompatible as they did in Voyager, but
    1. The Picard showmakers have quoted Voyager as precedent, and
    2. If it isn't, surely they'd have used that power.)
     
  8. publiusr

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    Now I hear about “dark photons”
     
  9. F. King Daniel

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    How about using the holodeck to make oxygen and leaving the doors open? None of it makes sense. But it's a TV show, I gave up trying to make sense of it long ago...
     
  10. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    You know that's not a bad idea, the oxygen thing I mean haha.

    Then we'll get the fan debates is holo oxygen the same as real oxygen hehehe
     
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    Hacked replicators can pump out mustard gas.
     
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  12. Gingerbread Demon

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    Well technically why not?
     
  13. SalyutBuran

    SalyutBuran Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    If you have the ability to manipulate any kind of matter you have immense levels of energy being produced. Even flattening a piece of metal will create intense heat. There's no way it's low on energy if it is any way described like it is on the show.

    The holodeck for all intents and purposes would be able to produce enough energy to fuel a small town or even a city.

    It's very unliklely something like a holodeck would ever exist, it's already a massive suspension of disbelief, but the idea it'd be low energy is just out of the park.

    You'd get more mileage if you convinced me farts were being used as a way of turning the ship into a blimp and letting it float.
     
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  14. Gingerbread Demon

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    Conversely.

    Actually thinking about the time period they all live in by our standards a 9v battery today might be able to power a 24th Century Laptop if they made one that worked like a current day laptop using their technology since some of it runs on very, very low power.