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Gotham - Season 1

This episode might be the worst episode I've seen so far. It seemed like too much was happening, and after the momentum of the last few episodes, this episode, coming off of the hiatus, felt like it squandered it. I also don't understand why the series came back for one episode and is taking another week off? I guess it's a sweeps thing, but why not save this episode for a week and then have new episodes in a row.

Also, no Alfred was not a good thing.
 
I didn't think this one was horrible, but it definitely wasn't one of the better ones.
I thought the stuff in Arkham was OK. I'm a big Morena Baccarin fan so her introduction was big plus. If we had gotten the reveal that Gruber was really Hugo Strange that I was expecting from the reveal that he did it, it would have helped.
I did like the stuff with Butch, that was a nice bit of character building for him.
I'm not quite sure what purpose the stuff with Selina and Ivy served, hopefully that is setting up something for later. I was honestly expecting Selina to take Ivy to Wayne Manor, so I was disappointed when they went to Gordon's apartment.
We only got a little bit of Penguin, but it was pretty good, like usual. It was nice to see him actually get knocked down a peg or two.
 
Cat used to be afraid of Ivy, now she's protective of her like a strafe?
I think that Cat was being more protective of Bruce and wanted him to stay away from Ivy. Cat is the type to feel she doesn't have to be afraid of anyone.
Although, when Essen invites Jim out for a drink, I thought finally!
I thought that Essen pulled out the bottle so the three of them could have a drink in the office.

I like the idea of "Jack" as Hugo, but he's a fun villain even without. His continued referral of Gordon as "Jim" would seem to show that he will come back into the show focused on "Jim," which may be the catalyst that gets Gordon out of Arkham.
 
In the preview for next week's episode, they did show Gruber in what looked like the GCPD office. Not sure what the signficance of that will be in relation to Gordon, but I am wondering if the stuff with Gruber will some how lead to him getting out of Arkham.
 
I liked the episode but I didn't love it.

I don't mind when this series uses the cliches of it's genre.. it's a cop show in a heightened reality, so its dialogue should be both arch and familiar. And yet, when the mobster killed that guy at the dock, it was going too far into the territory of the cliche, particular using that song there. Ugh.


This was more of a transitional episode, as the subplots have little to do with other and they are just setting things up for later. It as okay, not great.
 
Random comment but Maroni (sp), is played by David Zayas, who was in the Annie remake that came out over break.

I now really appreciate him as an actor...in Annie, he's different from Maroni in being an honest-to-goodness good guy (with a few strokes of shadiness), with Maroni being bad yet likeable.

Hope he survives another season...but his comment to Penguin...sounds like a mark of death.

Which reminds me, is this the FIRST episode where Penguin hasn't killed anyone? On average, hasn't he killed 1 person per episode? And not ONE tied to him???
 
Random comment but Maroni (sp), is played by David Zayas, who was in the Annie remake that came out over break.

I now really appreciate him as an actor...in Annie, he's different from Maroni in being an honest-to-goodness good guy (with a few strokes of shadiness), with Maroni being bad yet likeable.

Hope he survives another season...but his comment to Penguin...sounds like a mark of death.

Which reminds me, is this the FIRST episode where Penguin hasn't killed anyone? On average, hasn't he killed 1 person per episode? And not ONE tied to him???
Maroni has to survive to create Two Face.
 
This is entertaining yet also kind of dumb. There's just so many different plot lines and characters of varying quality. If the show really just narrowly focused on Gordon and the mob it could be compelling, I think. There's just endless nonsense going on around it.
 
I also don't understand why the series came back for one episode and is taking another week off? I guess it's a sweeps thing, but why not save this episode for a week and then have new episodes in a row.
college football

No actually ...it's a REPEAT of Empire, a new show Fox is trying to promote...which actually works for my wife,so successful for one viewer at least.

But yeah...makes no sense for the flow of Gotham...it might have been wiser for American Idol to have a 3 night audition premiere, then the EMpire repeat, then go full force for Gotham
 
Whatever FOX is doing, both DirectTV and I are confused. My To Do List did have Spirit of the Goat listed for tonight, and later an new ep listed for the 19th.

To top that off, our local FOX affiliate accidentally aired a promo for "tonight's new episode of Gotham." Even though the guide listed Empire, I recorded the time slot just to be safe.
 
I'll never get why US television schedules are so needlessly complex and drawn out.
 
It almost seems as if they want to make it as difficult as possible to follow a TV show.
 
I'll never get why US television schedules are so needlessly complex and drawn out.

Probably inertia, to a large extent. In the '50s, a TV season was typically well over 30 episodes, running pretty much continuously for nearly 3/4 of the year from fall to late spring, with weeks off only for production delays or special events. Over the years, as it was discovered that audiences were willing to watch reruns, the number of new episodes per season diminished -- typically 26 episodes by the '60s and '70s, down to 22 for most shows by the '90s, now sometimes even less. But the 9-month seasons continued.

Then there were the "sweeps" conducted by ratings services several times a year, typically November, February, and May (and probably August too, but that was during the break). Because those were the times when the ratings services assessed show performance in order to provide that information to advertisers, the networks concentrated their new episodes around those sweeps periods, so the seasons had to stay spread out over the year even as the number of episodes diminished, and thus seasons got broken up into three or four segments with gaps between them. Although cable shows, which tended to have shorter seasons, evolved a pattern of breaking them up into two half-seasons instead. These days, we're in transition as the old models break down and networks experiment with new patterns and year-round scheduling, so things are a little unstable.

(Really, the whole idea of sweeps seems like a bad idea to me. The goal is to get statistical information on show performance, but since the networks know when the sweeps are coming, they concentrate new episodes around sweeps months and employ ratings-grabbing tactics like airing specials and having series arcs build up to big, important climaxes, and thus the ratings figures that result are artificially skewed and not statistically representative of the shows' overall performance. It seems it would've been more scientific to perform sweeps on a secret schedule so that the observation wouldn't bias the result.)

But sports seem to have a lot to do with it too. There are some unfortunate timing alignments between TV seasons and sports seasons, and that can interrupt shows' schedules to their detriment. I remember a number of instances where a show would premiere, run for about three weeks, then get pre-empted by baseball for four or five weeks, and have trouble finding an audience when it came back. I think that smothered a number of promising shows in the crib. They should've just rearranged the broadcast schedules, but I guess they felt pressure to premiere their shows at the same time as the other networks that didn't carry baseball. (That's another thing that's changed -- the pattern of a uniform season premiere date for all networks doesn't really apply anymore, now that we tend to have more year-round schedules.)

I guess it's simpler in the UK because you have the BBC and TV licenses and all that, so your programming isn't as heavily shaped by all the hoops US shows have to jump through to cater to advertisers. Although I'm not sure that would apply to ITV or whatever other commercial networks you have.
 
I'll never get why US television schedules are so needlessly complex and drawn out.

Probably inertia, to a large extent. In the '50s, a TV season was typically well over 30 episodes, running pretty much continuously for nearly 3/4 of the year from fall to late spring, with weeks off only for production delays or special events. Over the years, as it was discovered that audiences were willing to watch reruns, the number of new episodes per season diminished -- typically 26 episodes by the '60s and '70s, down to 22 for most shows by the '90s, now sometimes even less. But the 9-month seasons continued.

Then there were the "sweeps" conducted by ratings services several times a year, typically November, February, and May (and probably August too, but that was during the break). Because those were the times when the ratings services assessed show performance in order to provide that information to advertisers, the networks concentrated their new episodes around those sweeps periods, so the seasons had to stay spread out over the year even as the number of episodes diminished, and thus seasons got broken up into three or four segments with gaps between them. Although cable shows, which tended to have shorter seasons, evolved a pattern of breaking them up into two half-seasons instead. These days, we're in transition as the old models break down and networks experiment with new patterns and year-round scheduling, so things are a little unstable.

(Really, the whole idea of sweeps seems like a bad idea to me. The goal is to get statistical information on show performance, but since the networks know when the sweeps are coming, they concentrate new episodes around sweeps months and employ ratings-grabbing tactics like airing specials and having series arcs build up to big, important climaxes, and thus the ratings figures that result are artificially skewed and not statistically representative of the shows' overall performance. It seems it would've been more scientific to perform sweeps on a secret schedule so that the observation wouldn't bias the result.)

But sports seem to have a lot to do with it too. There are some unfortunate timing alignments between TV seasons and sports seasons, and that can interrupt shows' schedules to their detriment. I remember a number of instances where a show would premiere, run for about three weeks, then get pre-empted by baseball for four or five weeks, and have trouble finding an audience when it came back. I think that smothered a number of promising shows in the crib. They should've just rearranged the broadcast schedules, but I guess they felt pressure to premiere their shows at the same time as the other networks that didn't carry baseball. (That's another thing that's changed -- the pattern of a uniform season premiere date for all networks doesn't really apply anymore, now that we tend to have more year-round schedules.)

Like I said, seems overly complex for no apparent reason. It's no wonder so many promising shows get cancelled when the whole system seems to set shows up to fail half the time.

I guess it's simpler in the UK because you have the BBC and TV licenses and all that, so your programming isn't as heavily shaped by all the hoops US shows have to jump through to cater to advertisers. Although I'm not sure that would apply to ITV or whatever other commercial networks you have.

BBC channels are the only ones that are funded by the licence fee. Everything else is just as dependent on advertising and sponsors as US channels are. Many channels have even adopted some of US TV's more horrifying practices - show/time-slot sponsorships, and advertising the next show during the latest ones end credits, being two of my least favourites.

Still, we manage to air shows without skipping weeks, or throwing in random re-runs, or breaking mid-season, or getting pre-empted, or worrying about going up against a Football match...
 
(Really, the whole idea of sweeps seems like a bad idea to me. The goal is to get statistical information on show performance, but since the networks know when the sweeps are coming, they concentrate new episodes around sweeps months and employ ratings-grabbing tactics like airing specials and having series arcs build up to big, important climaxes, and thus the ratings figures that result are artificially skewed and not statistically representative of the shows' overall performance. It seems it would've been more scientific to perform sweeps on a secret schedule so that the observation wouldn't bias the result.)

I think it made sense at the time, with the lack of technology and man power.

But in today's day& age & technology, with most TV coming through an instaneous trackable means (like internet or cable TV), the need for a sweeps months is meaningless. Premieres and season finales are important, but its now easier to track other factors..as well as incorporate other means related to the show, such as merchandising and social media. For example, Scandal blows up on my Twitter &Facebook feeds when its on. Advertisers should be able to tap that and maximize their association with the show (as well as tech to see which advertisers would be best fits...and maybe even do things to track the show's effectiveness in promoting a product or service).
 
Morpheus, as someone who works in the ad business, the tracking is nowhere near that accurate as to who is watching what. Most traditional tracking only verifies that the ad ran in the correct place for its full duration. Tracking shows is just as big a mess as you cannot tell who is actually watching to target the ads. So Gotham got a week off because the big ad dollars went to football this Monday as did a huge audience.
 
Sports. The nemesis of TV series.
Trying to watch CSI this season (10PM Sunday) has been nearly impossible.

Of course, American Idol also only exists to screw up Fox's genre TV schedule.
 
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