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Ghostbusters 3 back in development hell?

LOL, only half paying attention there, all fixed. Didn't look right, but I just glanced away and moved on...

But yeah, in theory we're all here because of Trek, and they've used the "old cast handing the reins to the new cast" SEVERAL times now: McCoy in Encounter at Farpoint, Picard in DS9 pilot, DS9 in VOY pilot, Kirk (and Chekov/Scotty) in GEN, Nimoy in the new Trek movie, etc.

Then again, it's a shitty idea that's never worked, so thankfully never used in a franchise we like :lol:
 
With Nimoy, it works because he's kind of handing it to a younger self, and so there's still that iconic role. Handing off Ghostbusters roles to completely new characters that are to be relied on to carry a franchise is iffy because if it doesn't work, then you've screwed the pooch with the franchise, and like mentioned before, that kind of passing of the torch hardly works. People don't want to see new characters. They want to see the icons.
 
Then again, it's a shitty idea that's never worked, so thankfully never used in a franchise we like :lol:

I'm somewhat inclined to say that you're comparing apples to oranges, though.

Let's look at Star Trek. By the time of "Encounter at Farpoint," Star Trek had three television seasons and four (soon to be five) movies under its belt. It was a proven long-distance runner in multiple formats. After the success of The Next Generation, it was natural to have "passing the torch" scenes in "The Emissary," "Caretaker," et al. It had been proven that the concept of Star Trek -- some folks explore the stars and see a bunch of weird shit along the way -- could work in various permutations, and the tradition of having a cast member from the previous series "launch" the new one just became a nice way of starting again. Nimoy in the 2009 Star Trek was used in a similar way, primarily to give legitimacy to the reboot.

Ghostbusters, though, is not a sci-fi / action piece, which a lot of people seem to be forgetting nowadays. It's a buddy comedy with supernatural elements used to generate much of the humor. That's why it worked: Two dorks, a smart-ass and a token black guy were thrust into saving the world.

Ghostbusters worked once, and that was back in 1984. The sequel was mediocre, the video game was decent for what it was and the animated series was hit-and-miss (and, really, an entirely different beast), but the magic in the idea has only been found once, and that was on the first try. The guys who put the idea together in the first place, Aykroyd, Ramis and Reitman, failed in their second attempt. I'm hard-pressed, in fact, to think of comedies that have worked well as franchises.

It just strikes me as incredibly premature to say, "Of course it can work! Look at Star Trek," when they're two entirely different properties with entirely different histories.
 
Didn't say it always worked, or couldn't fail, just refuting the comment that it could NEVER work, and was always a failure. Just was the most convenient example i could think of, where Star trek has used established characters to hand the reins to a new group of people. Was thinking of the idea as Ghostbusters:TNG anyway, so it led me there.

Sure, Trek had had 3 seasons of TV and almost 5 movies at that point, but while Ghostbusters has had a little less prolific life, it's had 2 movies, an animated tv show, books, probably half a dozen video games, and is just as much an iconic force as Trek. Don't disagree with some of your points, but it's not as drastic as you say.

Stargate franchise is a lot less prolific, and did the same thing with both TV spinoffs, using established characters as the 'sendoff' to pass things to a new group. Usually MacGuyver ;)

And agree, GB was more of a buddy comedy, and the actors made it work, but no reason that can't evlove, as the premise left something that you can work with, wasn't just generic buddy comedy.
 
Didn't say it always worked, or couldn't fail, just refuting the comment that it could NEVER work, and was always a failure.
1. I never said it could 'never work'.

2. I said 'I don't think it's ever worked in any MOVIE franchise' which is true; I do think that.

For the record, Trek XI would've been better served severing sentimental ties to TOS completely.
 
Sorry I have not read all 5 pages' but is there a legal reason why they can't make the dam thing with out Murray?
 
I don't think Aykroyd and Ramis want to make it without him.

Of course, I'm sure it's the studio's dream to just reboot it with a younger, hipper cheaper cast. Ghostbusters, starring Taylor Lautner, Zac Efron, Hillary Duff, Miley Cyrus and Channing Tatum.
 
I don't think Aykroyd and Ramis want to make it without him.

Of course, I'm sure it's the studio's dream to just reboot it with a younger, hipper cheaper cast. Ghostbusters, starring Taylor Lautner, Zac Efron, Hillary Duff, Miley Cyrus and Channing Tatum.

I, and every other true GB fan, will hunt down and "do away with" all 5 of those talent-less hacks before they're ever allowed near a GB film.

No, if they do a reboot, do it right.

Ryan Reynolds as Peter Venkeman
Steve Carrell as Egon Spengler
Seth Rogan as Ray Stanz
 
Yeah, that's what I thought. In that case, it's do or don't. Personally though, I'd rather have actors that are roughly the same age that the original cast was when they took on the roles if they have to go with a new cast. Make it a continuation with new blood. NYC also doesn't necessarily have to be the main location anymore. It could be a franchise where the NYC location is the main HQ, with other locations around the US or around the world, with the end-event culiminating at something like a trade-show where they all meet up at or something.
 
I think I'm finally on the same page as Bill Murray; it's not that he doesn't want to do it, it's that he doesn't want to do it unless it's going to be good and he seems less than impressed with whatever those Office US writers came up with.

Though I'd love to see another film, I agree there's no point of doing it just to do it. It doesn't matter who you cast in which parts if there isn't a good script to back it up.

...so is there any word on a second video game yet?
 
Yeah I can understand him not wanting to do one until a really good script comes along and after reading the GQ interview...I kind of dig the idea of him being a ghost after being killed in the first few minutes. I still hope this happens but am not holding my breath or anything.
 
...so is there any word on a second video game yet?

It sold pretty well initially (it moved about a million units across the combined platforms in its first month, and then dropped like a rock and the multiplayer community disappeared), but given its troubled development and publishing history, how difficult it was to get the stars aboard, Atari moving towards digital distribution, as well as developer Terminal Reality currently being tied up with the Star Wars Kinect game for Xbox 360 ... I really, really doubt that a sequel will be coming anytime soon. If the movie were moving forward, I'm sure there would be a game tie-in, but in a vacuum, I don't think so.
 
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