Yes it would. I for one was HOPING they'd blow up the -E so that we could get a better ship in the next movie! (Don't ask me how I expected them to get back to the 24c
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Yes it would. I for one was HOPING they'd blow up the -E so that we could get a better ship in the next movie! (Don't ask me how I expected them to get back to the 24c
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Oh PLEASE that was such a Hamo-saurus ME book that Shatner Wrote. His four books of him coming back to life was just his arrogant way to say he was pissed off that Kirk had to die.
He is such an arrogant jerk...
Look at mee... Look at mee... I did not die... Neener neener neener,,, that's what it basically said.
Fans if i recalled cheered when Kirk died.
Where I saw generations. LOL
Again my 2 cents here.
Nathaniel
It would've been fine with me if Kirk had just stayed dead in the beginning of the movie... he was a hero, and that's how I would've liked to have seen him go out.
He was a hero the second time too, but stopping a madman from firing a missile from killing people we've never seen doesn't feel as intimate as saving his crewmates and his ship. If Kirk was going to die, he should've died sacrificing himself on behalf of his ship and its crew.
He was a hero the second time too, but stopping a madman from firing a missile from killing people we've never seen doesn't feel as intimate as saving his crewmates and his ship. If Kirk was going to die, he should've died sacrificing himself on behalf of his ship and its crew.
Oh hell yea... Kirk would have been better suited to stay dead. BUT picard can't fight and Kirk went oin their with his flying leg drop and punches and soren got knocked on his ass...
After the array is destroyed by the supernova? 10 years later and that's still an incredible shot.
Actually he was instrumental in making the decision that Kirk die. The writers pitched the idea to him and he eventually agreed to it. If at that time Shatner didn't want Kirk to die then Kirk wouldn't have died.
I've read the books and if that was what they said then I guess it wasn't "basic" enough for me, because I never got that impression.
I'm sure your opinion of Shatner hasn't colored your memories of the experience.
While that's a good shot, the one I think I'm thinking of is after Picard orders the Enterprise to Veridian III.
Huge gaping plot holes in this movie though...
Why didn't Picard exit the nexus and go back to the E-D when Soran was in Ten Forward, arrest him there and then - but no, he has to get Kirk and exit at the last second - how stupid can he get?
The Solar Probe launched at the star causes the light to dim within seconds, when it should have taken several minutes for this to occur.
Apparently it is so difficult to get into the Nexus that Soran has to kill hundreds of millions of people and blow up stars, AND take 80 years of his life to do so, when he forgot that he, Kirk, Guinan and co all got in the Nexus pretty easily in the first place, they just flew into it with a ship! Data points out that this would blow the ship up, but surely he could just jump out the airlock before the ship blows up or something, it worked for Kirk.
20 Year old tiny Klingon BOP destroys the Fed Flagship?! Shields or not the E-D should have destroyed with ease.
Any more?
That said, if you switch the brain cells off that get annoyed at such things its enjoyable. The film is the best looking of the TNG films and is most like the TV show. The lighting & sets look great. The Visual effects where all excellent and still look great 13 years later. The score is OK. The direction is good. The movie feels epic and looks great. I just wish they had a little more time to iron out the flaws in the script.
Why didn't Picard exit the nexus and go back to the E-D when Soran was in Ten Forward, arrest him there and then - but no, he has to get Kirk and exit at the last second - how stupid can he get?
The Solar Probe launched at the star causes the light to dim within seconds, when it should have taken several minutes for this to occur.
Apparently it is so difficult to get into the Nexus that Soran has to kill hundreds of millions of people and blow up stars, AND take 80 years of his life to do so, when he forgot that he, Kirk, Guinan and co all got in the Nexus pretty easily in the first place, they just flew into it with a ship! Data points out that this would blow the ship up, but surely he could just jump out the airlock before the ship blows up or something, it worked for Kirk.
20 Year old tiny Klingon BOP destroys the Fed Flagship?! Shields or not the E-D should have destroyed with ease.
Any more?
That said, if you switch the brain cells off that get annoyed at such things its enjoyable. The film is the best looking of the TNG films and is most like the TV show. The lighting & sets look great. The Visual effects where all excellent and still look great 13 years later. The score is OK. The direction is good. The movie feels epic and looks great. I just wish they had a little more time to iron out the flaws in the script.
The only possible in-universe reason I can imagine why Picard wouldn't or couldn't go back to the D and arrest Soran in Ten Forward could involve the Nexus's proximity to where he wanted to go, making Guinan's line of 'you can go anywhere or any time you want' be more figurative, that Picard could go anywhere he wanted within the Nexus's illusions, but if he wanted to leave the Nexus he had to go somewhere that the Nexus ribbon itself had actually been...
I am not a big Shatner fan...
He's got a big head and is a BIG ham...
Worse than the klingon he played with in ST 6:
Generally at any convention hes hard to talk to and deal with and my impression he was being an ass to the fans.
He wasn't being cool like the other trek cast members.
He's got a big head and is a BIG ham...
Worse than the klingon he played with in ST 6:
Generally at any convention hes hard to talk to and deal with and my impression he was being an ass to the fans.
He wasn't being cool like the other trek cast members.
Interestingly enough that Klingon was played by Christopher Plummer. Shatner and Plummer were both in the same Shakespeare company in the late '50s!
(Plummer was also directed by TMP director Robert Wise as "Captain von Trapp" in The Sound of Music.)
Six degrees of Trekkeration and all that. 
I loved the Enterprise-D and was upset it got destroyed. I've never really warmed up to the E...
I like the Defiant better...
I like the Defiant better...
Not even the people who's made him a household name and kept him fed and wealthy for the last 40 years?
Quite the opposite for me. I thought, and still think, that Shatner was spades better than Stewart, who was obviously exhausted and burnt out from the last season of TNG, having to carry much of the two-hour finale and then being rushed into being the lead in the first of a then-projected series of movies.
Shatner's performance came off as relaxed and natural, where Stewart seemed distracted, off-put and not quite Picard. Although, he did a good job in the scene with Troi but when next to Shatner he seemed less somehow.
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