General Computer Thread

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Amaris, May 26, 2016.

  1. Owain Taggart

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    I was actually fairly impressed that they were actually working and not just stills. Next step would be to have fully working XML recreations of each OS ;) :D
     
  2. Santaman

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    I am sure you can get a DOS/Win3.11 running in a web environment, think M$ will send in their wolfpack of lawyers to make it stop though. :wtf:
     
  3. Owain Taggart

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    Then you just make it look generic :D

    Does anyone here use Thunderbird? I have a couple of annoyances that have cropped up with the latest version (68) which arrived yesterday.

    1. The app menu aka the hamburger menu, which they say: "The new menu is single pane with icons and separators that make it easier to navigate and reduce clutter. Animation when cycling through menu items produces a more engaging experience and results in the menu feeling more responsive and modern."

    If this is supposed to be more responsive and modern, then I fear what they think is a bad UI. In terms of usability experience, I think it's pretty bad. One example I found stood out. To get to the options menu from there took 3 clicks. One click to get the hamburger menu open, One click to open up the Options sub-pane, then click on Options again to finally get to your options. Seriously? That's very inefficient. In Firefox, at least it only took two clicks. One to open up the hamburger menu, then another to access your options. Here it's like sub-panes gone wild.

    2. The icon for the taskbar notification is something I feel they've changed for the worse. It used to be it looked like an envelope, and this was far easier to see and know what I was seeing at a glance. Now it looks like a nondescript download icon, which is far less useful at a glance. At the very least, they could have changed it to an OS native envelope icon. This one just sucks.
     
  4. Santaman

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    GUI = Graphical Useless Interface.. :p
     
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  5. Count Zero

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    I must say I kind of enjoy reading about Windows update horror stories, knowing I don't have to deal with that. (I know, I'm a bad person.)

    I never had any significant problems with the Windows computers at work although waiting for the updates to finish was really annoying. Sometimes it would take up to half an hour after reboot before they were useable again. I don't understand why this has to be so cumbersome.
     
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  6. Owain Taggart

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  7. Trinity Gingerbread

    Trinity Gingerbread Time is ticking away, tick, tick, ticking away. Premium Member

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  8. Santaman

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    Micro$oft.. yeah.. maybe they should finally concentrate on actually making reliable non spying software without bloat, I mean, sounds like a good idea to me.. :biggrin:
     
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  9. Amaris

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    I'm still trying to figure out why an operating system has to be 25 - 40 GB for a base installation. You can install Linux Mint (my favorite distro) under 15 GB, and that's with all kinds of neat little extras, spiffy visuals, and all the polish you can shine! I mean, there are Linux versions much smaller, but I mean something that a home user can just start working on right away as if they were using Windows.
     
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  10. Trinity Gingerbread

    Trinity Gingerbread Time is ticking away, tick, tick, ticking away. Premium Member

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    I can guess lazy coding and .exe files that are bloated. Also tons of background processes that sometimes overlap on each other too. Lots of bloat.
     
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  11. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Reward programmers according to how many lines of code they write and bloat is what you get. Efficient coding also takes more time and money, which annoys shareholders.
     
  12. Trinity Gingerbread

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    Yes but of course /s hehe
     
  13. Santaman

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    Seems LInux Mint 19.3 will be released somewhere in December, also you can already use the 5.3.xx kernel if you like which is more suited for newer hardware like Ryzen CPU's.
    Also it can have a performance penalty on Intel chips because of all the holes that they need to plug.
     
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  14. think

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    Just so you know...
    if you have a 15 year old dvd burner player.. and that, is first in the boot order --- well, I had to move that dvd thing to last because booting started to hang.. hang very badly -- at the first boot device.. just yesterday went into my boot order thing and re-ordered it seems to work again I have yet to check my dvd drive though not really looking forward to that.
     
  15. Santaman

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    Seems the drive has developed an error, check if it is still working/reading DVD's

    Old computers can be a little grumpy, one of my Athlon X2 64 machine has been acting weird, one of the USB ports seemed to have malfunctioned, wouldn't recognize stuff anymore, yet the port underneath it worked fine so it couldn't be messed up, tried USB sticks and a mouse but nope, rebooted the machine and tadaa the port worked flawlessly again.
     
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    I'm getting a bit stoked. Retro Games is coming out with a new commodore C64 this month, and unlike the kind of disappointing mini one last time with a fake keyboard, this will have a full keyboard and a lot of improvements. Keeping old 8 bit machines running is a labor of love and they will eventually fail. so this is a nice way to keep the experience instead of using emulators.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Trinity Gingerbread

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    This sounds exciting
     
  18. Santaman

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    I have two C64's, the old breadbox style one and the later Amiga like version, also two MSX 1 machines and two Atari 8 bit machines a 800XL and 65XE which are quite alike despite the 65XE looking like a mini Atari ST. (of which I have two)
    Pity they're in storage, and yes they will fail someday but most stuff can be replaced because they were built to be repairable.
     
  19. Marc

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    Slashdot had an article the other day on how this time in 1983 there was the price war between Commodore with the C64 and Texas Instruments with the TI-99/4A.

    the later was the better machine but it was more expensive to make and TI lost millions trying to match the prices.
     
  20. Trinity Gingerbread

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    I had the TI99 and it was a cool machine for what it was, but the C64 was always the best deal because of the huge software library, and cartridges. I wonder if the new machine will be able to use the old cartridges.
     
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