Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)
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It's a spoiler for an unaired episode. Some people don't watch trailers. Because it spoils unaired episodes. Which haven't aired yet. Apparently it's allowed on the board rules. It's particularly unfortunate because this is the first "new" season of GOT where everything didn't get spoiled for me a year in advance, and I can actually experience the story the way it's meant to, in the moment, rather than in out of context blurbs on social media. To each their own.
I just watched Ep 3 and 4 back to back. What a great season--I was worried after episode 1 but we have had three solid weeks in a row now and the plot actually seems to be moving forward. Assuming this season is the Winds of Winter (more or less), we are probably four hundred pages into that book now. I did miss Arya in the most recent episode though.
That was a very good episode! Daenerys has been dull for weeks, but blimey when she takes action she's still a great character. She has got one crazy bespoke army now. Given Jon's forces are mainly wildlings are we starting to see a sea change? A move away from knightly combat? I do wonder if the end of the story will see Westeros knocked back a few centuries, into its own dark ages (assuming where it's at isn't its dark ages) but moving forward in a more egalitarian way? One step back to take two forward if you will.
It really does feel like the Tyrells are being set up to be slaughtered, but I don't see what Cersai gains, surely they still need the support of the Tyrells, especially if war with Dorne is on the horizon, the Lannister's are flat broke as I understand it, not a great place for a house that prides itself on paying its debts.
Its odd how happy I was to see Jon and Sansa together, it has been a long time but as they both admit it isn't like they loved each other as children. oh Ramsey, have you just made a big mistake...
I don't get Littlefinger's plan. His whole story to the Vale was that Sansa was taken by force, but surely Sansa will correct this?
My favourite bit of the Tyrion scenes was him walking down the stairs to be on the same level as the former slaves. Nice touch. Guess his diplomacy might fall by the wayside now Daenerys has reinforcements...
It really does feel like the Tyrells are being set up to be slaughtered, but I don't see what Cersai gains, surely they still need the support of the Tyrells, especially if war with Dorne is on the horizon, the Lannister's are flat broke as I understand it, not a great place for a house that prides itself on paying its debts.
Its odd how happy I was to see Jon and Sansa together, it has been a long time but as they both admit it isn't like they loved each other as children. oh Ramsey, have you just made a big mistake...
I don't get Littlefinger's plan. His whole story to the Vale was that Sansa was taken by force, but surely Sansa will correct this?
My favourite bit of the Tyrion scenes was him walking down the stairs to be on the same level as the former slaves. Nice touch. Guess his diplomacy might fall by the wayside now Daenerys has reinforcements...
I think the important thing about Tyrion's agreement is that he is buying some time for the city. It will be interesting to see how the unsullied and the Dothraki work together under Daenerys leadership. It looks like we are going to see a couple of different action sequences this season, with Jon and the Wildlings taking Winterfell and the battle of Slaver's Bay.
I enjoyed finally seeing the women realize that they need to take control and that they need to be leaders. Sansa certainly demonstrated the change of character we had hoped for since her rescue from King's Landing. I hope that with the support of the Wildlings she actually becomes the warder of the North rather than Jon. It was certainly nice to see Dany take control of her situation and free herself rather than allowing herself to be rescued. This was the first time since taking over Meereen that she actually did something befitting her titles.
I enjoyed finally seeing the women realize that they need to take control and that they need to be leaders. Sansa certainly demonstrated the change of character we had hoped for since her rescue from King's Landing. I hope that with the support of the Wildlings she actually becomes the warder of the North rather than Jon. It was certainly nice to see Dany take control of her situation and free herself rather than allowing herself to be rescued. This was the first time since taking over Meereen that she actually did something befitting her titles.
Oh it's obvious that neither side trusts the other but their common enemy takes precdence now, settling old debts can come later (and Cersei might try to use this to get an upper hand over the Tyrells and once again fuck up).
I'm not sure Cersei will fuck up this time round She has finally begun to learn she can't force things to happen as she demands it. Just compare at how Jamie and her first barged into the small council meeting, versus their second attempt where they appealed to the small council's sentiments and common enemies, then offered up a plan.
One important thing though, Dany has crossed a line with her brutal burning to death of a dozen people to take control of the Dothraki. Yes, they did threaten to rape her to death but that was after she refused to take her traditional position in Dokraki society. Is there a way to see this as anything but a power grab?
This is Game of Thrones. The only lines to be crossed are the ones we impose upon it. There are no lines in this world otherwise and Danny did exactly what her character might have done in that situation. Totally believable, totally in-character and totally awesome!
Um...threatening to rape her to death is still a threat of raping to death no matter their motivation. She was well in her right to defend herself.
I think they put the raping to death part in there so we have sympathy for her and don't see her as the invader and conqueror of the Dothraki. Which she is.
Look at it this way.. this was a room full of top killers in a culture that breeds killers. They were there to decide her fate (at best she could hope to be benched for life, the other would have meant a life of slavery or worse). These are the guys who would decide whom to attack, enslave and kill because that's all Dothraki do so she did the region a big favor by eliminating their leaders and taking control.. Dany is the closest to a humanist as we define it in that world and that's rare.
I'd rather not bring up the reality of our society and where were are socially into a world that's much more brutal and simple.. we have corners in the world where it's either kill or be killed, in GoT the entire world is like this and if you live outside of major cities there is no police force or something like this to protect you, so you can either choose to be a victim or take your fate into your own hands and see where it leads to.
I'd rather not bring up the reality of our society and where were are socially into a world that's much more brutal and simple.. we have corners in the world where it's either kill or be killed, in GoT the entire world is like this and if you live outside of major cities there is no police force or something like this to protect you, so you can either choose to be a victim or take your fate into your own hands and see where it leads to.
None of us needed to know that.I read that as "befitting her titties."
Dany knew full well what she was doing and went in there knowing the outcome. She did the honorable thing of giving the Khal's the chance to surrender to her. In her mind, she was doing exactly the same thing she did in Season 3--she was freeing a people from what she sees as oppression. It doesn't matter that she killed them in her mind. They were the evil that needed to be cast out.
In both the novels and the series I see this as a story about the weak and neglected finding strength and power, and nowhere was this more evident than in tonight's episode. Dany and Sansa seem to have finally woken up and are taking the power away from the oppressors. I know that there will be heartache to follow but this was by far the most feel good episode yet, as somebody also stated upthread.
In both the novels and the series I see this as a story about the weak and neglected finding strength and power, and nowhere was this more evident than in tonight's episode. Dany and Sansa seem to have finally woken up and are taking the power away from the oppressors. I know that there will be heartache to follow but this was by far the most feel good episode yet, as somebody also stated upthread.
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