Bertie Carvel, hell yes.
Spoilers Game Of Thrones’ Spinoff ‘House Of The Dragons’ ordered to series
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I have no clue who any of those people are.
Acting wise anyway, I know one of them plays for West Ham most weeks.
Acting wise anyway, I know one of them plays for West Ham most weeks.
Heh, that's awesome. Something like analog on digital? Never knew they could make noise that way either!
The old 5.25" floppy drives (back when they were actually "floppy") were noisy AF like that. 3.5" drives were generally quieter, but still made some noise and probably a lot easier to control than the old 8-bit drives, many of which used proprietary serial cables. The clicking HDD's actually made me twitch, since clicking noises like that usually means they're on their last legs and about to experience catastrophic failure. At least, that's the way it worked back in the 90's. It never occurred to me to use them for background percussions!
An inventive and amazing use of old hardware.
Oh yeah, I know drives were generally noisy, but I was speaking more on the fact that they could actually make various tones like what is shown in the video. That's the wild part.
So, that was a dark af ending! I imagine this will all only get worse now.
So dark that all of us are preferring to discuss the weakness of the main titles than the actual episode.
Yeah, I noticed. 
That was freaking dark! 
Are there no guards in this place??
Had to try and remember who various people were. The most interesting bit was that despite the fact that he's a huge dick, Aegon was being so accommodating to all the people who'd come to ask for favours. "But he's come so far."
Do we think Helaena has some kind of prophetic power? The comment about rats that seemed weirdly surreal earlier on takes on a whole new meaning later!
Are there no guards in this place??
Had to try and remember who various people were. The most interesting bit was that despite the fact that he's a huge dick, Aegon was being so accommodating to all the people who'd come to ask for favours. "But he's come so far."
Do we think Helaena has some kind of prophetic power? The comment about rats that seemed weirdly surreal earlier on takes on a whole new meaning later!
Guards Ross and Rachel
Or gone on a trip to Starbucks... Oh wait.. 
House of the Dragon 2x1 "A Son for a Son" review
HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2×1 “A Son for A Son” is the season premiere of the second season of House of the Dragon. While a big supporter of ...
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HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2×1 “A Son for A Son” is the season premiere of the second season of House of the Dragon. While a big supporter of this series and a believer that it has done a lot to wipe the sour taste of Game of Thrones’ season eight from viewers’ mouths, I have a lot of criticisms of season one. Simply put, the ten episodes jumped around one way too much and at least two seasons of story were crammed into one season in hopes of getting to the “good stuff” faster. Unfortunately, this severely impacted the pacing of the show as well as its characterization, which are the things that GOT fans love most.
The season begins with a new opening as we replace the dripping blood down a stone family tree of the Targaryens to, instead, be a tapestry that is woven with the stories of the Dance of the Dragon. I think this works very well as a visually distinct metaphor for the setting and better than the previous season. Still, it’s a surprising change and I wonder why they decided to make it given the stone family tree and blood one wasn’t bad.
The previous season ended with the death of Lucerys, one of Rhaenyra Targaryen’s children. Killed in an accident by Aemond Targaryen and his dragon, the result is that the Blacks and Greens are going to have a war no matter what. Kinslaying is the vilest taboo in Westeros, and no one would believe that he didn’t do it deliberately. I was waiting to see how Alicent and Otto Hightower would react to this stunning development. Well, I will have to keep waiting because it skips right past that.
We get a glimpse of the North that so far has played little role in the conflict. Still, we get some nice backstory about the past relationship between the Sarks and Targaryens. Also, a plot hole about how the dragons refuse to cross the Wall comes up because they didn’t make this a thing in Game of Thrones and the opposite being an actual plot point. Still, it’s nice to see the Wall again and a reminder of the importance of the struggle against the White Walkers.
Much of the episode deals with the aftermath of Aemond killing Lucerys despite the fact that we don’t see everyone’s immediate reaction. Rhaenyra is beside herself with grief and Daemon sees an opportunity to assert his position once more by promising vengeance. Fans of the book, Fire and Blood, will know who “Blood and Cheese” but newcomers will probably be shocked. Sadly, it lacks the power of the scene in the book because we haven’t had the characters developed enough to truly bond with them before things go horribly south.
There are some interesting developments in the characterization that I would have wanted more examination of as well. Like, for instance, Alicent Hightower has begun an affair with Ser Criston Cole despite both citing morality as a reason to oppose Queen Rhaenyra. Aegon II is an utterly inept king and his brother is much better suited, which both brothers know. We also have Mysaria drop her godawful fake accent.
Overall, I think this was a solid episode, but I foresee this season suffering again from the fact that it is going to be an abbreviated season. Perhaps even worse because there will only be eight episodes this season. Really, I think they needed twelve-episode seasons, and it still feels like we’re running ahead past more character seasons. Still, I think it’s the best fantasy currently on television right now.
The tragedy of the Green children, is each one of them has the attributes King Viserys I would want as Targaryen offspring.
Aegon II was the son Viserys always wanted and would make a decent ruler. But Viserys neglected him and kept Rhaenyra as the heir.
He rode the gold dragon Sunfyre.
Aemond (presumably named after his uncle Daemon), has all the strength and clout of a Targaryen warrior. Like Daemon, Aegon I and Maegor. Aemond rides the 2nd largest dragon as his mount. While Viserys I rode the largest, Balarion the Black Dread. And yet Viserys neglect Aemond as well. Never congratulating him for claiming Vhaegar or trying to rectify the eye he lost to Luke.
Heleana has “dragon dreams”. Just Like Aegon I and Viserys I. She sees the future but doesn’t know what it means until it happens. Another neglected child by her father. She mounted the dragon Dreamfyre.
Daeron, like his brother Aemond and his father Viserys, is a history buff and scholar. Daeron was gentle and kind like Viserys. Claiming the dragon Tessarion The Blue Queen. Opposite his Aunt Rhaenys, who rode Melys The Red Queen.
All 4 of Alicent’s children got the best of Viserys. In both the show and books he paid them no mind. Rhaenyra is the anointed choice out of love for his first wife Aemma.
Yes and she has already shown this in the first season. I don't think it's something being left as a question but rather something we are being shown straight up.
I've been spending a lot of time over on the House of the Dragon subreddit lately, and the more iI do, the more apparent it becomes that people either dont realize or care about the fact that the producers and crew of the show really messed up their ability to tell a coherent story because they didn't bother to double-check their own established continuity and either wrote or cast characters as significantly older than they should have.
Two examples that immediately jump out are Aegon and Aemond's ages being given as 21 (Aegon) and 18 (Aemond) by people working behind the scenes when, according to the show's actual internal continuity as laid out throughout Season 1, Aegon is 19 and Aemond is 15, and Jaeherys and Jaehera being cast and written as 4 year olds when, again according to the show's actual internal chronology, they can't be any older than 3.
Two examples that immediately jump out are Aegon and Aemond's ages being given as 21 (Aegon) and 18 (Aemond) by people working behind the scenes when, according to the show's actual internal continuity as laid out throughout Season 1, Aegon is 19 and Aemond is 15, and Jaeherys and Jaehera being cast and written as 4 year olds when, again according to the show's actual internal chronology, they can't be any older than 3.
GOT has literally always historically taken extreme liberties with pretty much all character ages since the beginning. You're just noticing this now, 13 years after the first episode aired?
Remember that Daenarys started off as 13 or 14 in book one? We can't really have a young teen being tortured and fondled by her freakshow brother and then subsequently raped by a nomadic warlord on TV after said-freakshow-brother literally sells her to the Dothraki in exchange for an army, can we? Further, all the Stark children were depicted in the show as much older than they really were in the books. All of them. Otherwise you would have some pretty unspeakable things happening to Sansa at a very young age (she also started out as 13 in GOT), for example, particularly by Ramsay Snow/Bolton. And I thought that Stannis Baratheon burning his own daughter, Princess Shireen (the one inflicted with greyscale), at the stake for Melisandre's blood magic was really dangerously pushing some red lines (at least for me). I don't recall her age, but she was also depicted as very young.
We can probably assume that, in this world (meant to parallel the time, environment, and events of the War of the Roses in England, c. 1455-1487, per GRRM), life spans were quite short and children were married off stupid-young for political gains - much younger than we would consider today the "age of majority". As such, most, if not all, the adult characters would be considerably younger than the present-day actors who portrayed them.
But I get it. You don't like the show. Fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to next lecture us on how the Hightower banners are the wrong shade of green as another glaring example of the show-runners shitting on continuity?
Remember that Daenarys started off as 13 or 14 in book one? We can't really have a young teen being tortured and fondled by her freakshow brother and then subsequently raped by a nomadic warlord on TV after said-freakshow-brother literally sells her to the Dothraki in exchange for an army, can we? Further, all the Stark children were depicted in the show as much older than they really were in the books. All of them. Otherwise you would have some pretty unspeakable things happening to Sansa at a very young age (she also started out as 13 in GOT), for example, particularly by Ramsay Snow/Bolton. And I thought that Stannis Baratheon burning his own daughter, Princess Shireen (the one inflicted with greyscale), at the stake for Melisandre's blood magic was really dangerously pushing some red lines (at least for me). I don't recall her age, but she was also depicted as very young.
We can probably assume that, in this world (meant to parallel the time, environment, and events of the War of the Roses in England, c. 1455-1487, per GRRM), life spans were quite short and children were married off stupid-young for political gains - much younger than we would consider today the "age of majority". As such, most, if not all, the adult characters would be considerably younger than the present-day actors who portrayed them.
But I get it. You don't like the show. Fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to next lecture us on how the Hightower banners are the wrong shade of green as another glaring example of the show-runners shitting on continuity?
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The difference there is that I'm not talking about the differences in age between Fire and Blood and House of the Dragon; I'm talking about House of the Dragon changing character ages and then screwing up those changes by not double-checking them internally.
Who said anything about me not liking the show?
I was extremely reluctant at first to return to the Westerosi Universe after the trainwreck and massive F-U that was the final season of Game of Thrones, but did end up watching HotD Season 1 after it finished airing and am currently rewatching it with the intention of watching Season 2 once it finishes airing too.
I was simply pointing out that, on the sub reddit at least, the extent to which continuity errors have been created by the show's production team not double-checking its own internal onscreen timeline and the impact that said errors have already had on the coherency of the narrative is seemingly being either downplayed or ignored, which I find kind of sad and sobering.
Is there any evidence that such age differences were indeed an accidental “screw up”, or were they conscious decisions made by the writers using a similar rationale I cited as GOT? At the end of the day, does it really damage the story irrevocably?
Well, lessee… Since the beginning of the thread back in 2022, you’ve expressed great trepidation about what to expect from the new show after it was announced and, instead of approaching it with an open mind, criticized it for “massively betraying” you for the cardinal sin of re-using a previous show’s music. Did you feel “massively betrayed” when TNG re-used Goldsmith’s TMP intro music, or did you just enjoy the show for what it was, and maybe even said, “Trek is BACK, bitches!”, like I personally remember feeling at the time? Again, does it damage the story beyond redemption?
Yeah, the GOT finale wasn’t the greatest, but at least they gave it a go, instead of the insanely disappointing Sopranos finale. Since GRRM never finished his books (and likely never will at this point), we’ll probably never know how he intended for the series to end. It might have gone this way, in might not. Has he gone on record about this? I’d like to see it if he did. Perhaps the fault should lie elsewhere?
And here you allow others to color you views of the show before things even get going, threatening to [GASP!!] avoid it entirely if things go in a way you might not like. “No! Wait! Stop! Please dont’t do it!”
But why would anyone do that, when so much irrelevant and pedantic negativity can be doled out in such deliciously generous portions to which we must all silently acquiesce due to its obvious enlightened insightfulness?
Yeah, you clearly like it lots…
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