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Great trailer 
So yeah, i figured that sooner or later Mars will be on a collision course with Earth. We had this many times over on Earth when former colonies rebelled and got rid of their colonizer overlords, the most famous examples being the US War of Independence and India driving out the British. I wonder if the storyline would have been different if Trump weren't a factor because the parallels can even be seen by the blind here.
Seems like this season will be the one with the most action so far, the show has been fairly subdued when it comes to this and very limited to a small group of people when there was armed conflict but here it's a widespread event it seems.
They are also amping up the Sci Fi aspect, 2012 feels like 2040 in our timeline and i'm all for it!
Sad to see Margo and Ed age out but i really do hope it's their last season as much as i love their characters, it's time for others to take over.
One month to go!
So yeah, i figured that sooner or later Mars will be on a collision course with Earth. We had this many times over on Earth when former colonies rebelled and got rid of their colonizer overlords, the most famous examples being the US War of Independence and India driving out the British. I wonder if the storyline would have been different if Trump weren't a factor because the parallels can even be seen by the blind here.
Seems like this season will be the one with the most action so far, the show has been fairly subdued when it comes to this and very limited to a small group of people when there was armed conflict but here it's a widespread event it seems.
They are also amping up the Sci Fi aspect, 2012 feels like 2040 in our timeline and i'm all for it!
Sad to see Margo and Ed age out but i really do hope it's their last season as much as i love their characters, it's time for others to take over.
One month to go!
My takeaways from the trailer. These are only guesses. I could be right, I could be wrong.
1. The President is definitely Trump-Like, except putting Earth First instead of America First.
2. There's no way Margo's spending the entire season in prison. I say this only because FAMK isn't a Prison Show, so I bet Aledia's telling her about an opportunity. I'd guess Margo will be offered a pardon if she helps the government out with something that only she can do.
2A. If they have the balls to make the President a Russian asset, then he secretly won't care about what Margo did for them.
3. It'll be crazy if they gear up for a Revolutionary War style conflict between Earth and Mars. I don't know if they'll go that way, but just the thought of it gets me wondering.
2. There's no way Margo's spending the entire season in prison. I say this only because FAMK isn't a Prison Show, so I bet Aledia's telling her about an opportunity. I'd guess Margo will be offered a pardon if she helps the government out with something that only she can do.
2A. If they have the balls to make the President a Russian asset, then he secretly won't care about what Margo did for them.
3. It'll be crazy if they gear up for a Revolutionary War style conflict between Earth and Mars. I don't know if they'll go that way, but just the thought of it gets me wondering.
FAM becoming Prequel to the Expanse, confirmed.
I love that it looks like Aleida is going to reconcile with Margo. The two best characters of the show!
I was going to say Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, which predates both of those.FAM becoming Prequel to the Expanse, confirmed.
I love that it looks like Aleida is going to reconcile with Margo. The two best characters of the show!
I was going to say Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, which predates both of those.
Well, we have the TV Expanse referencing FAMK, but also book expanse referencing The Martian iirc there is an MCRN ship in the third book called the Mark Watney
That's true, I've heard about the two of them referencing the other (I've noticed watched or read The Expanse) but this is the first I've seen about a reference to The Martian. That's pretty cool.
I'm just a really big fan of Robinson's Mars Trilogy and I feel like this show is the closest we'll ever get of an adaptation of ideas and themes.
The trailer suggests to me we may be getting a nod to Bova's "Grand Tour" novels too.
Is the US president...Degra?
Yup, Randy Oglesby is returning as President, former VP, Jim Bragg.
Among other Star Trek roles.
But thank you for giving me a name to the face because now I know where I recognized him from: Independence Day.
next month folks
I don't believe there is a trailer yet for Star City.
They typically put up a minute-or-so "news story" from each year in the time-jump between seasons as a bonus feature, to flesh out the traditional season-opening montage, and also including short text snippets comparing the alternate history to what happened in the real world around that time. All of the ones bridging season 4 and 5 are up in the Apple TV app under the bonus features for the show. This one is the 2008 story. The full list is:
I don't remember this being part of season 4, so i assume it's just a typo and they meant season 5. Space Elevators - now we're cooking!
Bragg Wins (2004) Al Gore loses reelection to former vice-President James Bragg, who won 349 electoral votes, carrying every state but Oregon, California, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Vermont, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, and the District of Columbia. First elected governor of Idaho in 1982, Ellen Wilson pick him as her running mate in 1992, but he left the administration after Wilson came out. Bragg returned to prominence as a commentator on right-wing cable news following Gore's 2000 election, but he only gained ground in the polls after the Goldilocks heist allowed him to paint Gore as a bumbler who'd allowed unprecedented wealth and property for America and Earth as a whole to slip through his fingers.
North Korea Base (2005) North Korea sets up a separate base independent of the international Happy Valley base. International observers are skeptical of their claims that the base is intended only for peaceful research for no military purpose. North Korea was expelled from the M-7 coalition (making it the M-6) because of accusations that they supported the Goldilocks heist. Several North Korean astronauts had also been given political asylum in Happy Valley, increasing tensions.
Peacekeepers (2006) Paul Bremmer was assigned by President Bragg to serve as the first M-6 governor on Mars. Bremmer announced the arrival of the Mars Peacekeepers, the first official law-enforcement agency to serve in Happy Valley. The intent is that uniformed constables rather than undercover intelligence agents will form a stronger bond with the community in the settlement and avoid events like the riot at the end of last season. Well, I say "uniformed," but it looks more like body armor to me. They're recruiting from local police forced on Earth (or just in America?), which I'm sure won't be a problem given the high standards of behavior and training set by the average American cop.
A New Alliance (2007) An Eagle News editorial excoriating Gore's mismanagement for leading to new tensions in the wake of the Goldilocks heist as opposed to the advancement and plenty that were supposed to come about after the asteroid's discovery. The ISN (Independent Spacefaring Nations) has formed in response to the M-6 countries' control over Mars and, thus, Goldilocks. They include China, Brazil, Malaysia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and Thailand. Bill McGann seems curiously sympathetic towards ISN/cynical towards the M-6 for a right-wing American political pundit during a Republican administration.
Space Elevator (2008) A construction contract for a space elevator from Mars to the Goldilocks asteroid is awarded to a Russian firm, Kuragin, despite Helios Aerospace having been responsible for the vast majority of infrastructure work on Mars thus far. Some suspect this is a case of graft or pork-barrel politics on the part of the USSR. Kuragin and Helios are also both developing probes searching for signs of alien life in the outer solar system.
Radiation Shield (2009) The first school opens in Happy Valley, with about a dozen students of all grade-school ages. Helios Aerospace has recently completed construction of electromagnetic generators on towers around the base to increase radiation shielding on the base, which will allow even young children to live on the base safely. Despite conventional radiation protection measures in the base, such as underground chambers and using water tanks and pipes as shielding around inhabited areas, leukemia and bone cancer rates remained elevated in people who had spent time on Mars, especially astronauts and cosmonauts who first travelled to Mars before the base was built, leading to pressure to create additional anti-radiation measures.
A Final Journey (2010) The original Pathfinder space shuttle arrived at its new home as a permanent exhibit at the California Science Center in Los Angeles. The entire Pathfinder class is set to be retired by NASA after 27 years in operation. Minor research failure; photos (I guess artist's conceptions, if it only just arrived) show the Pathfinder on display the way the Endeavour was originally exhibited there in real life, horizontally in a hangar (which makes sense for the Pathfinder), but the exterior stock footage showed the permanent exhibit under construction, where Endeavour is mounted to a full-sized external tank and rocket booster stack in launch position, which doesn't fit with how the Pathfinder "flew" to space rather than "launching.
Refugees on Mars (2011) An Eagle News piece on undocumented workers flooding M-6 nations from countries whose economies are collapsing because of lack of access to cheap Martian iridium. Stowaways in pressurized cargo containers are even trying to make a better life at Happy Valley, where the residents have nicknamed them "crate-ers" (get it, like they came a crate, but also like a crater from an asteroid...?). The migrants live in the disused lower levels of the base and scrape out a living doing odd jobs and off-the-books work. New Happy Valley Governor Leonid Polivenov says he can't do much unless the migrants' countries of origin agree to take them back on Earth.
M-6 Protests (2012) An Eagle News opinion piece on anti-M-6 protests which began with, shall we say, an "occupation" near Wall Street in New York city, and quickly spread around the world. Cheap, plentiful iridium continues to unbalance the world economy, and is now even having negative effects in the M-6 nations that had been the main beneficiary thus far.
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Space elevator! Another Red Mars connection (even more so if it has the same fate...).
I'm going to hold off looking at that list until after the premiere but thank you for including it, David cgc.
I'm going to hold off looking at that list until after the premiere but thank you for including it, David cgc.
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