For All Mankind Trailer - Apple TV- SPOILER

[Reverend]

I hope not. Orion never rubbed me the right way. The Sea Dragon was great - a post S.V rocket to launch huge colony modules, that's fine. But what do you use orion for, if you have BDR launches already?

Other than sheer audacity? Getting out to Mars, Jupiter and back without the need for refuelling at either end or long, slingshot trajectories that'd be rough on crew expendables.
I mean if this show is going all in on the would-have-beens of the space race, why not go all in? I fully expect to see a Buran at some point, so why not a Soviet knock-off Orion too? It's a fair bet that in this timeline the PTBT either never happens or looks very different, so an increased use of nuclear technology seems inevitable.
Plus if both parties are set on warming up the Cold War in space, they're going to want at least some pretence to test deployable tactical payloads in a vacuum.

 

[1987SpaceGuy]

The already filmed 8 episodes out of 10 when production was shutdown and they are thinking about Season 3 already.
source: https://io9.gizmodo.com/for-all-mankinds-season-2-teaser-blasts-off-into-a-new-1844505946

 

[Imaus]

Other than sheer audacity? Getting out to Mars, Jupiter and back without the need for refuelling at either end or long, slingshot trajectories that'd be rough on crew expendables.
I mean if this show is going all in on the would-have-beens of the space race, why not go all in? I fully expect to see a Buran at some point, so why not a Soviet knock-off Orion too? It's a fair bet that in this timeline the PTBT either never happens or looks very different, so an increased use of nuclear technology seems inevitable.
Plus if both parties are set on warming up the Cold War in space, they're going to want at least some pretence to test deployable tactical payloads in a vacuum.

Well wasn't the main gripe about Orion is that 1) you can't launch it in an atmosphere in any real way, so you'll have to keep it orbit to orbit - taking out one of its supposed advantages, and that 2) the nuclear payloads have to be specially made for the job - you can't just take W54s or B53s off the shelf then out the end; the charges had to be redesigned, remade, reproduced en masse. Basically you'll have to be producing dozens, hundreds, thousands of the things, a new arms race. For a heavy lifter they don't need, and a heavy transport they don't need. Humanity has what - a few bases on the Moon. No Venus Flyby, no Mars landing, nothing in the outer system. Orion is a beast not needed in this verse or our verse.

 

[Tuskin38]

Great trailer, but did I just see a space shuttle flying in space with its cargo-bay doors closed and on its way to the moon?

That was earth.

 

[N-121973]

That was earth.

You're quite right it's Earth, my bad. But still it shows the shuttle way beyond LEO with the cargo doors closed.

 

[Tuskin38]

You're quite right it's Earth, my bad. But still it shows the shuttle way beyond LEO with the cargo doors closed.

I'm sure there will be a perfectly reasonable explanation.

 

[Push The Button]

You're quite right it's Earth, my bad. But still it shows the shuttle way beyond LEO with the cargo doors closed.

The very first thing that you had to do after achieving orbit in my old Atari 2600 Space Shuttle game was to get the cargo bay doors open, or bad things would happen.

 

[Marc]

I'm sure there will be a perfectly reasonable explanation.

did the shuttle open it's door while in transit or once it had reached orbit?

I seem to recall that the doors were open both for solar panels and heat issues. If you're travelling and not in orbit you're not having to deal with the sun come up every 90? minutes. End result is you don't have the heat issues plus keep the doors closed provides a bit of extra protection for your payload.

 

[Shawnster]

If you're travelling and not in orbit you're not having to deal with the sun come up every 90? minutes.

Bay doors were opened once orbit was achieved. That is irrelevant, however, in this case since the heat build up was a result of the shuttle's design.

No, not every destination is in geostationary orbit. A shuttle journey to the space station or the moon or beyond (in a fantasy setting) will experience moments of both light and dark. In fact, after leaving the Earth's shadow, the journey might be completely in sunlight.

 

[Marc]

In fact, after leaving the Earth's shadow, the journey might be completely in sunlight.

Though it was an issue you could always rotate the orbiter so the underbelly is facing the sun.

 

[N-121973]

Though it was an issue you could always rotate the orbiter so the underbelly is facing the sun.

You mean they could initiate the PTC - Passive Thermal Control or 'barbecue Roll'. as used by the Apollo crews?

 

[Marc]

You mean they could initiate the PTC - Passive Thermal Control or 'barbecue Roll'. as used by the Apollo crews?

Not quite - didn't the Apollos have to continually roll though?

The shuttle would just have to turn once.

 

[publiusr]

Over at the NASA spaceflight.com forum, there are some links to studies on just what it would take to shove the orbiter to the Moon.

Sea Dragon looks to make it easier.

I would love a history with a Saturn on one pad, and shuttle on the other

 

[N-121973]

Not quite - didn't the Apollos have to continually roll though?

The shuttle would just have to turn once.

I don't know if anyone else follows him on You Tube but Scott Manley discussed this very topic and has come up with some interesting thoughts.

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[Marc]

Good news everybody.

Season 3 has been greenlit and Season 2 stars Feb 18th.

‘For All Mankind’ Renewed for Season 3 at Apple (msn.com)

 

[Ovation]

Good news everybody.

Season 3 has been greenlit and Season 2 stars Feb 18th.

‘For All Mankind’ Renewed for Season 3 at Apple (msn.com)

Excellent.

 

[KepperC]

This is like Star Trek, where they announced the renewal months after work already started. Is there a reason why they wait to announce it?

 

[Ovation]

This is like Star Trek, where they announced the renewal months after work already started. Is there a reason why they wait to announce it?

I would guess (and that's all it is--a guess) it's to avoid a too long gap between announcement and broadcast. This seems early enough to build a sense of anticipation while not too early so as to be forgotten.

 

[Marc]

This is like Star Trek, where they announced the renewal months after work already started. Is there a reason why they wait to announce it?

Don't think so.

checked wiki to see what was listed for the production dates and it says that they resumed August 20th after a covid induced delay.

So I don't think much if any production work for S3 would have been started as they'd be finishing up (or just have finished) post production.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Good news everybody.

Season 3 has been greenlit and Season 2 stars Feb 18th.

‘For All Mankind’ Renewed for Season 3 at Apple (msn.com)

Fantastic news! I'm very happy we're getting two more season and the next season is almost around the corner!