For All Mankind Trailer - Apple TV- SPOILER

[Push The Button]

If they move past present day, then the story telling tone of the show will change. Part of the appeal is the alt-history aspect. By it's very nature, a show that takes place in our future is not or no longer alt-history. No more using historical or archival footage in the story telling.

Figure three more seasons until they pass present-day. The deviations from reality should become even larger. I don’t expect to see President Bill Clinton in season three for example, the precise series of events that led to that happening in our timeline have already been changed. I do expect a fully realized internet, early tablets and smartphones in the next season.

 

[David cgc]

If they move past present day, then the story telling tone of the show will change. Part of the appeal is the alt-history aspect. By it's very nature, a show that takes place in our future is not or no longer alt-history. No more using historical or archival footage in the story telling.

I thought I saw it in this thread (I can't find it now, though, so either it was less recent than I thought or I saw it somewhere else), but if you count up to seven seasons (which is what they've said they have a rough outline for), you get:

Season 1 — 1970s — 2020
Season 2 — 1980s — 2021
Season 3 — 1990s — 2022
Season 4 — 2000s — 2023
Season 5 — 2010s — 2024
Season 6 — 2020s — 2025
Season 7 — 2030s — 2026

So it's likely that only the final season will be set in the future relative to us. Pop cultural touchstones (especially the needle-drop songs) will likely be present even as history continues to diverge. One of the season two finale interviews had Ron Moore saying they actually considered doing a Defiance-type thing of having artists or soundalikes record alternate-timeline versions of hits taking into account the change in context, but quickly realized that'd be an insane amount of effort for very little pay-off.

 

[jaime]

Damn.

Gods damn.

I was already saying "Way to go, Gordo!" when he remembered the old comms system as means to reach out to Houston.

But then he had to go and do that. And Tracy, without hesitation, went with him, to ensure mission success. I knew there was no way in hell they would survive out in space, even with the help of duct tape, but it still hurt.

And yet it was almost for not, if it hadn't been for Dani's ballsy decision to buck orders and reach out to Soyuz to do the handshake. Turns out her Star Trek quote last week came to fruition and I'm glad I was wrong on that count.

And yet (again) it almost went straight to hell if it hadn't been for Sally standing up to Ed on his decision to blow up Buran. Thankfully between her and Gary, some sense was knocked into Ed in the last second and he blew up Sea Dragon instead.

And fuck. Just when I was beginning to really trust Sergei and his relationship with Margo, we find out he's being forced by the Soviet general to turn Margo into an asset without her knowledge. She already opened the door when she signaled to Sergei to double check the O-ring. Gods, as much as I love this show, I really don't like this turn of events.

That said, I loved the expected time jump to 1995 and the first manned mission to Mars. I'm sorry we don't actually get to see that first mission (if season two is anything to go by), but very cool nonetheless!

An aside: Last week it was Star Trek, this week Dani invoked "Space Oddity" when she talked to Soyuz.

I don’t think Ed was going to shoot down Buran. (Foreshadowing shown when he couldn’t go through on cheating on his wife.) He was always going to shoot down sea dragon, from the moment he relieved her. He just wanted no one else responsible for the choice he made, and couldn’t order her to lock on to sea dragon. He expected her to argue with him, to have to lock the target himself (because that’s what he actually did) but possibly not for her to pull the gun on him.
Basically, if it went to shit because he was the one that scuppered sea dragon, he didn’t want the rest of his crew to have anything to answer for.
It was neatly done. He may not ‘live in the grey’ but he knows how to work in it, consistently doing the right thing, even when it comes back to bite him (such as not killing the cosmonaut in season one) which it often does. (He thought he was doing the right thing by doing what Karen said and playing the hard father role on video calls. That didn’t work out too well for him either. But he lived with it, and didn’t blame anyone else.)

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Sure, that all makes sense in retrospect.

But in the moment, in that very tense moment, I was not certain Ed would do the right thing. Hell, I didn't even realize he destroyed Sea Dragon until they passed Buran because I was so caught up in that moment.

 

[1987SpaceGuy]

Spoiler: season 3 character spoiler from Ron Moore

Molly Cobb lives, but goes blind

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Spoiler: Season 3

Honestly, that's no surprise. The real question is what is her position now? I also wonder how long it took for people at NASA to figure out she lied about her exposure during the solar flare and if she was ever punished for it.

That said, I'm thrilled Sonya Walger will still be around for one more season!

 

[valkyrie013]

In all, Season 2 was good, liked S1 better.
Wasn't expecting Gordo and Tracey to die like that.. and the first thing I thought when they were duck taping was, There making a Normal Suit From Gundam! I would have taped the mask on so they could have "Breathed" a bit and not have to exhale. and honestly.. a layer of aluminum foil would have helped with the direct sunlight..
The Karen, Danny thing was cringe worthy, as said, there wasn't much of a lead up on her side, He was a good faithful husband.
Wasn't a big fan on there depiction of Regan, and how fast he was ready to press the button or take it up a notch. his stuff was more on an Economic war on Russia.
Loved the Pathfinder, looked Way cool, and hope for a model kit soon! ( Doubt it..)
Scene with the LSM doing ride of the valkyries was awesome!

wonder whom they'll have as president in the 84 election now that Regan's term was pushed to 76?

In all not bad, looking forward to what they come up with in the 90's!

 

[CaptainWacky]

I kind of hope they switch to a mostly totally new cast in season three. I mean, keep some around in management positions but realistically it would be a much younger crew actually going to Mars, wouldn't it? I found the opening episodes of season two slightly weak because they had to spend so much time catching us up on where the characters were ten years after season one. But the second half of th season was excellent and up there with season one quality. Very sad to see Gordo and Tracey go (but hey, opens up some series regular spots for new characters in season three!)

Don't want to make a pithy comment about it being a better Star Trek show than current Star Trek but...

 

[Aragorn]

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Returns June 10.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Not soon enough!

 

[Push The Button]

I was wondering when this was coming back, something to look forward to.

 

[marillion]

Disappointed that it's only a teaser. I'm REALLY looking forward to this.

 

[FPAlpha]

Hell yeah - one of the best shows currently running.

It's going to be an awesome late May/early June - 27.5. Stranger Things Season 4 and Kenobi, June 10th For all Mankind. This will be a great late spring/early summer TV wise.

 

[David cgc]

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[Tuskin38]

So the Soviet Union didn't dissolve.

 

[FreezeC77]

So the Soviet Union didn't dissolve.

I wonder if the continued Space Race actually helped them by keeping America as an enemy and helping to curtail public dissent. Instead of just abstract ideals in a cold war, you had continued fighting over actual territory into the 80s and now 90s even though that territory happened to be off-world.

BTW, isn't Ed a little on the old side to be an active astronaut on the first Mars mission? He's def over 60 at that point in the 90s right?

*edit* actually thinking it over and re-watching the trailer I'm not sure if Ed is still with NASA or with the private company attempting to go to Mars.

Either way it would actually make sense for him to still be in the game because that private company would have been poaching experienced astronauts which would mean they likely employed older former astronauts and that would certainly have an impact on NASA as well possibly causing them to turn to older astronauts who stuck with NASA mixed with younger trainees who probably will be bumped into service sooner.

 

[Tuskin38]

I think Season 2 mentioned something about them pulling out of Afghanistan earlier?

 

[FreezeC77]

I think Season 2 mentioned something about them pulling out of Afghanistan earlier?

I'm trying to remember when it was mentioned, but I think there was some news report about the Soviets poised to invade Afghanistan and they pulled back entirely? So it may have even never happened at all in the show.

*edit* it was the opening 'catch-up' in the S2 premiere when they showed events that happened starting with Reagan winning election 1976 and into the 80s.

The Soviets didn't invade and it was said they were focusing resources instead onto the space race.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Yeah, it makes sense the reinvigorated space race would lead thr Soviet Union to not invade Afghanistan and, in turn, not collapse.

I'm, of course, most existed about the Mars mission but im very curious to learn how the Soviet Union continues to develop in this alternate reality.

 

[FreezeC77]

Yeah, it makes sense the reinvigorated space race would lead thr Soviet Union to not invade Afghanistan and, in turn, not collapse.

I'm, of course, most existed about the Mars mission but im very curious to learn how the Soviet Union continues to develop in this alternate reality.

Yea. The nuggets of butterfly effect and timeline changes are always a big interest in alternate history storylines. I think it's definitely building to a female President for the US at some point. You had women get a 'bump' in the workforce due to adding them to the astronaut program. You have the head of NASA being a woman, it looks like Ellen is running for Senate. I could even see S3 ending montage leading to S4 with her giving a speech in the 'future early to mid 00's as President