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Fifth Season is Final Season

Nobody wanted Lower Decks. An animated comedy lead by someone who used to run Rick and Morty? People were mocking the idea from the very start. Saying the exact same words 'nobody wants this'.

Don't judge a TV show until you actually watch it.

I remember those days:

Haters: "This isn't Star Trek! This is not Rick and Morty!"

The same people who trashed LD in S1 are now singing its praises in S5! :rolleyes:

T'Lyn has grown on me. She's a great foil for Mariner (she's as disciplined, restrained, and controlled as Mariner is footloose and freewheeling).
 
I don't see any suffering.
Then you're not looking.

The obvious of course is that it has meant the functional death of character centered episodes for anyone but the main character.

The less obvious is it means the writers and directors don't have the time to gain the experience they need to put together really good stories.

And that the writers are often forced to expand a storyline that should have taken only a couple episodes into one that takes an entire 10 episode block because they can't do character episodes.
 
Yes we did.
Nope. Lower Decks was panned as a concept pretty darn quickly, has its canon status questioned on the regular, and that it was being handled by someone from the "Rick and Morty" crowd immediately brought up comments around the inappropriate use of humor, how Star Trek was not a comedy show, and it not work well as an animated format.

Nah, in the 1980s we were not clamoring for a new Trek show set after TOS with all new characters. (Trust me, I was there) And in the 2020s we were not clamoring for a half hour animated sitcom with a very cartoony style.
Exactly. The outcry of "No Star Trek without Kirk and Spock" was quite present upon initial release. Lower Decks didn't fair much better.
 
Yes we did.
It has as much validity as your no one wants the Academy series.

There have been people asking for the Academy show since it was originally suggested back in the Bennet / Berman days. Just as there were people asking for Captain Sulu show, Captain Worf show, Star Trek Klingon, so on and so on.

Does that mean those ideas were greatly were wanted by more then a section of fandom? Nope.

Lower Decks was not something that in general fans as a group (at least based on what we can see or read) wanted. There was a lot of immediate negative reaction.

TNG when announced was meet by both eager desire for new weekly Trek, but a lot of negativity on the lack of no cast from TOS, and even more negativity when the cast announcement went out. But there was still desire to see new Trek.
 
If they're planning on putting all their money into SNW, then I can't really complain if it means more and better seasons. The Academy series, I just don't see that lasting all that long. If we get some kind of offshoot of LDS then that would be cool, but I'm pretty certain this is just Paramount being cheap as hell.
 
This sucks. The best modern Star trek show gets cancelled, but they're still apparently wasting time on a horrible Discovery spin off, and probably that stupid Section 31 movie. Talk about misusing resources, if Paramount is having money trouble (which I've seen hinted at online) they should drop the new spin offs and keep the successful shows. OH well, hopefully the Lower Decks crew knew it was their last season early enough to get any really good ideas they were thinking about out, and to have a good ending (watch their ending be a parody of Enterprise's ending :lol:).
 
This is sad. I just hope they had a chance to properly wrap it up, but it doesn't seem likely at this point.

It would have been funny if the final episode of the series was a Riker and Troi episode. Only Enterprise people would understand the joke and that's fine.
 
Ever since the double strike last summer, plus with all signs pointing to the streaming bubble bursting, it felt like this news was inevitable.

Still, it doesn't mean that makes Lower Decks ending hurt any fucking less. Goddammit.
 
Currently filming.

Of course it is. I wonder what sentient species our "hero" will be eating in it :brickwall: I can't believe that they're making a Star Trek project where the "hero" is basically a female Space Hitler. Well, at least she's only going to be causing problems in the stupid 32nd Century, won't have to worry about it effecting SNW.
 
Of course it is. I wonder what sentient species our "hero" will be eating in it :brickwall: I can't believe that they're making a Star Trek project where the "hero" is basically a female Space Hitler. Well, at least she's only going to be causing problems in the stupid 32nd Century, won't have to worry about it effecting SNW.
Um, no.

Wrong on all counts.
 
Um, no.

Wrong on all counts.

Well, I'm not wrong about the main character

1. Being Space Hitler
2. Having a history of eating people (although admittedly that wasn't really shown on screen or treated as a big deal, but it happened).

The only thing I could be wrong about is the time period, but I swear to god if they fucking sent her back to the normal star trek timeline I'll fucking lose my shit.

I'm not actually in the mood to drive my blood pressure off the charts, so I'm just ending the conversation here and will be completely ignoring that horrible film or any more talk of it. Regardless of the fact that its already filming, its still a waste of money that should have been used on a better prject.
 
Fact: As shows go on, they become more expensive to produce (especially one as SFX-heavy as SNW).

It's cheaper to create a new show than it is to renew an old show indefinitely.

There's always the option of making streaming film tie-ins. :whistle:
But that isn't the question. The question is at what point does Trek no longer make viable financial sense to renew. Not that its cost over the long term will grow to the point where a new show will be cheaper. Expense is just one half of the equation. The biggest factor is revenue.

Using Yellowstone as an example, Even if they didn't mess with its cast o where it was airing. That show generated enough revenue to keep producing for many more years (unless of course it just fell apart, it can happen). And still generate more revenue then most any other show they produce.

Now due to issue with Costner's scheduling, Sheridan moved to end the show. Cut its streaming contract with NBC (which Paramount has wanted from day one, just needed legal coverage to do so). rename, and get new lead. The show is going to continue (again unless its numbers just completely fall off. That show is expensive, even if they could have kept Costner and included cast and producers (key one has made got significant raises), and moved it to Paramount + that show would still have easily several years left to. Easily.

Nothing from Trek is near that level. Nor do the cost reach that level. But Trek is still expensive. And SNW is at least domestically the the third highest rated show that has aired on Paramount +. And does do better then Discovery to date or Picard to date.

So the financial reason that lead to Discovery being cancelled, doesn't mean that SNW will hit that threshold in the same number of years.

As for new show development while over the long term (if they survive, thats always an if), their initial cost will be more expensive then what a current season of Trek will costs. So there is always a gamble.
 
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