Favorite and Least Favorite Character

[Orphalesion]

I do get what you are trying to say. If we compare it with Game of Thrones then Brienne (for excample) would be a physically strong character, while Sansa would be mentally strong; very feminine, not a fighter at all but still unbroken after all she has gone through (and one of my favourite characters for it). A character, male or female does not have to be a fighter to be "strong".

However I don't see mental strength with Jadzia you write about her struggling with defending her own identity against the voices of Dax's previous hosts, but we hardly saw that with Jadzia, that was really more Ezri's struggle. Part of the problem I have with her is that she seems to have no struggle, she's just good at everything and beautiful and perfectly comfortable in her own skin.
That's admirable in a real person, but for a fictional character it can make them a tad bit boring, especially if she is surrounded by all these much more interesting an layered characters.
However it is alright that you like her, I just didn't lappriciate the comment about people not liking her because she's a woman.

 

[Brie]

I never said people don't like her because shes a women I feel I didn't word that correctly.

 

[Dobian]

I liked Jadzia. She was always sort of a tomboy and liked to hang out with the guys. She drank with them, played Tongo with Quark. I agree that she was a little bit "too" good at being joined to a symbiont. Only a couple of episodes ever explored the inherent struggles. I mostly liked Kira. Sometimes she came on a little too strong. Even with Kai Winn there were a few times she needed to bring it down a notch, not be launching into her the moment she stepped onto DS9. I did like her courage though, and the way she easily stepped into command in Sisko's absence, even when staring down a fleet of Romulan Warbirds in one episode. I would have liked Voyager a lot better if she was the captain instead of Janeway.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

I would have liked Voyager a lot better if she was the captain instead of Janeway.

Funny. I would have liked Kes better if she had been played by Nicole de Boers.

 

[flandry84]

DS9 is absolutely my favourite series yet until recently Sisko was my least favourite captain.He seemed a peripheral character in just so many episodes that perhaps I mistook his absence as disinterest on Brooks' behalf.
But thinking about it,Sisko's absence allows the the regular and recurring cast such scope and time that it made Ds9 the great ensemble show it was.
And can you imagine how stifling it would have been to have had either Stewart or ( God help us) Mulgrew in command?

 

[Dobian]

And can you imagine how stifling it would have been to have had either Stewart or ( God help us) Mulgrew in command?

That is exactly why Sisko is my favorite Trek captain. You had Kirk the swashbuckling rogue, Picard the benevolent autocrat, Janeway the house mother/dominatrix, and Archer the frat boy. Sisko was the one captain who felt fully human to me. He had his moments of playing things by the book, but there were many times when he was positively whimsical. And he was constantly juggling his roles as captain and emissary, being keenly aware of the contradictions between the two. He also had his son on the station with him, which influenced his thoughts and decisions a lot. A lot of it has to do with Avery Brooks, who more than any of the other actors I feel tried to portray the person more than the captain.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

And can you imagine how stifling it would have been to have had either Stewart or ( God help us) Mulgrew in command?

That is exactly why Sisko is my favorite Trek captain. You had Kirk the swashbuckling rogue, Picard the benevolent autocrat, Janeway the house mother/dominatrix, and Archer the frat boy. Sisko was the one captain who felt fully human to me. He had his moments of playing things by the book, but there were many times when he was positively whimsical. And he was constantly juggling his roles as captain and emissary, being keenly aware of the contradictions between the two. He also had his son on the station with him, which influenced his thoughts and decisions a lot. A lot of it has to do with Avery Brooks, who more than any of the other actors I feel tried to portray the person more than the captain.

Although Brooks had the fewest share of the lines in his respective series, his character was more central to the series--he is driving the action rather than reacting to problems--that the main characters of the other series. The pilot is not Encounter at Bajor or The Prophets. It's Emissary, a study of the main character's personality and a suggestion the role he will play in the story.

 

[kkt]

I would have liked Voyager a lot better if she was the captain instead of Janeway.

Funny. I would have liked Kes better if she had been played by Nicole de Boers.

I would have liked Jadzia Dax better if Kate Mulgrew had played her...

 

[Dobian]

I would have liked Voyager a lot better if she was the captain instead of Janeway.

Funny. I would have liked Kes better if she had been played by Nicole de Boers.

I would have liked Jadzia Dax better if Kate Mulgrew had played her...

Worf would have had to kill her with his bat'leth.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Funny. I would have liked Kes better if she had been played by Nicole de Boers.

I would have liked Jadzia Dax better if Kate Mulgrew had played her...

Worf would have had to kill her with his bat'leth.

It would be pretty weird, considering Mulgrew plays older than both Brooks and Visitor. That said, she might have nade a decent Odo.

 

[TPT]

There are so many interesting and appealing characters in DS9, it's really hard to pick just one favorite. But if I had to pick just one, I'll go with Dr. Bashir.

I think what's great about DS9 is that it's such a strong ensemble show. So you get solid character developments and storylines not just from your three main characters (Sisko, Kira, Odo) but also from your secondary regular characters and recurring guest characters as well.

As for least favorite character, I don’t have any for DS9.

 

[Orphalesion]

I sometimes don't care much for Sisko actually. He doesn't cause me to skip an eisode centered around him like Jadzia does, but....he's a tiny bit to military for me if that makes sense.
Specifically I don't like those full stops in the middle of sentences he makes when slipping into military/speech mode i.e. "It is easy to be a saint (full stop) in paradise." reminds me a bit of Kirk's odd pauses between words.
And the other thing I don't like about him is his worship of the Starfleet uniform "You betrayed the uniform!" Uh....Mr. Sisko, it's just a stupid garment.
It all just strikes me too much like a modern day general or some such.

 

[Kilana2]

Favorite Regular - Quark
Favorite Reoccurring - Garak ( all time favorite)

Least Favorite Regular - Tied between Geordi & Neelix
Least Favorite Reoccurring - Wesley

That means, you essentially like every DS9 character. Your least favorites are TNG/VOY.

 

[TPT]

Favorite Regular - Quark
Favorite Reoccurring - Garak ( all time favorite)

Least Favorite Regular - Tied between Geordi & Neelix
Least Favorite Reoccurring - Wesley

That means, you essentially like every DS9 character. Your least favorites are TNG/VOY.

I liked TNG especially picard riker and date, even liked voyager with tuvok, paris and others but those characters i named I disliked really sucked.

I do prefer DS9 but they had some manky characters, like kasidy yates,vedek bariel, in fact that whole bajoran thing

Yeah, I agree with you regarding the Bajorans. Though I like DS9 a lot, one of the few things I had trouble with in this show was the Bajorans. (Or more specifically, my reaction to the Bajorans as an alien race.)

Don’t get me wrong. I like some of the Bajoran characters in the show, such as Kira, Leeta, and Kai Winn (as a villain character). I also understand that Bajorans are an important part of the overall DS9 story. Furthermore, all in all, I find the Bajorans to be noble people who suffered so much and thus is deserving of the audience’s sympathy. Yet, for me, all these things mentioned above never translated to me being interested about the Bajorans as an alien race.

I was somewhat surprised by my reaction, since this has never happened to me in the other Star Trek shows. Once I liked a certain alien character on a show, I usually became interested in that character’s alien race as a whole. (Example: Spock and the Vulcans, Worf and the Klingons, Quark and the Ferengis, etc.) But that wasn’t the case for DS9’s Bajorans. To this day, I don’t know why there is this odd disconnect within me when it comes to the Bajorans.

 

[Kilana2]

Don’t get me wrong. I like some of the Bajoran characters in the show, such as Kira, Leeta, and Kai Winn (as a villain character). I also understand that Bajorans are an important part of the overall DS9 story. Furthermore, all in all, I find the Bajorans to be noble people who suffered so much and thus is deserving of the audience’s sympathy. Yet, for me, all these things mentioned above never translated to me being interested about the Bajorans as an alien race.

I was somewhat surprised by my reaction, since this has never happened to me in the other Star Trek shows. Once I liked a certain alien character on a show, I usually became interested in that character’s alien race as a whole. (Example: Spock and the Vulcans, Worf and the Klingons, Quark and the Ferengis, etc.) But that wasn’t the case for DS9’s Bajorans. To this day, I don’t know why there is this odd disconnect within me when it comes to the Bajorans.

Maybe it´s the overkill of religious topics. I started to like the Bajorans more when I began to read the DS9 novels. Especially the Terok Nor Saga. It gave all my favorite characters a certain depth.

 

[TPT]

Don’t get me wrong. I like some of the Bajoran characters in the show, such as Kira, Leeta, and Kai Winn (as a villain character). I also understand that Bajorans are an important part of the overall DS9 story. Furthermore, all in all, I find the Bajorans to be noble people who suffered so much and thus is deserving of the audience’s sympathy. Yet, for me, all these things mentioned above never translated to me being interested about the Bajorans as an alien race.

I was somewhat surprised by my reaction, since this has never happened to me in the other Star Trek shows. Once I liked a certain alien character on a show, I usually became interested in that character’s alien race as a whole. (Example: Spock and the Vulcans, Worf and the Klingons, Quark and the Ferengis, etc.) But that wasn’t the case for DS9’s Bajorans. To this day, I don’t know why there is this odd disconnect within me when it comes to the Bajorans.

Maybe it´s the overkill of religious topics. I started to like the Bajorans more when I began to read the DS9 novels. Especially the Terok Nor Saga. It gave all my favorite characters a certain depth.

Yeah, maybe that's the reason. I guess I just didn't click with how the writers presented the religious topics. In hindsight, if the writers had introduced the Bajoran people and their society, culture, and religion in other ways, then maybe I would have become more interested in the Bajorans as an alien race.

 

[Dobian]

I sometimes don't care much for Sisko actually. He doesn't cause me to skip an eisode centered around him like Jadzia does, but....he's a tiny bit to military for me if that makes sense.
Specifically I don't like those full stops in the middle of sentences he makes when slipping into military/speech mode i.e. "It is easy to be a saint (full stop) in paradise." reminds me a bit of Kirk's odd pauses between words.
And the other thing I don't like about him is his worship of the Starfleet uniform "You betrayed the uniform!" Uh....Mr. Sisko, it's just a stupid garment.
It all just strikes me too much like a modern day general or some such.

There are times when Sisko does go full-on military, that's true. Like the time he chewed Worf out for abandoning his mission and losing the double agent to save Jadzia's life. Well, that's why you don't send a husband and wife on a covert mission, same reason you don't send a mother and son or a dad and daughter. What happens if they get captured? The blame fell on Sisko for that one, not Worf. Expecting someone to deliberately allow their spouse to die so their mission can be a success is unrealistic. Sisko should have taken the hit on that one in his report to Starfleet and not dumped it on Worf.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

its the bajorans "victim mentality" how they never let up on their war and suffering.

Grieg mongers, like scousers in the UK , who think they are the epicenter of the universe.
In life I respect peoples right to religion, however it felt like the bajorans could not wait to rant on and on about their prophets.

It's not like people still sing rebel songs in Irish pubs.

 

[Kilana2]

its the bajorans "victim mentality" how they never let up on their war and suffering.

Grieg mongers, like scousers in the UK , who think they are the epicenter of the universe.
In life I respect peoples right to religion, however it felt like the bajorans could not wait to rant on and on about their prophets.

It's not like people still sing rebel songs in Irish pubs.

I´m currently listening to Irish rebel songs.

 

[Orphalesion]

A Nation once again,
A Nation once again,
And lreland, long a province, be
A Nation once again!

It is true nearly every group has something they get hung up on and can't seem to be able to shut up about.

To be fair to the Bajorans, the genocidal occupation had just ended, naturally it was still fresh on their minds.
In relation to the religion on DS9. On one hand I'm happy they finally did aknowledge the existence of religion in a Star Trek show.
On the other hand I'm rather unhappy with how clumsily it was utilized a lot of the time, like in that abysmal episode where Kai (back then Vedek) Winn kicked up a shit storm about basically "evolution vs creationism" with every character neatly sorted into either "Richard Dawkins fanboi/girl" or "Subscriber to the Creationist Museum"
You get the feeling the writers have heard about this "ree-lee-djon" thing but never experienced much of it first hand.