I didn't mind Rom. I thought his marriage to Leeta was ridiculous, but the character turned out okay. He started out as a spineless jellyfish, but got better. He stood up to Quark in defense of Nog, and was very loyal to his son. The Ferengi that annoyed me the most was the Nagus. As much as I love Wallace Shawn, hearing his whiny, nasally, grating voice as the Nagus got old after about his second appearance. Especially since they made the Nagus as disgusting an old man as you can get. He was the worst Ferengi stereotype. I did like Brunt though, and got a kick out of his rivalry with Quark. He was a good comedic nemesis.
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Given that Trek character shat marble (to borrow a phrase from Amedeus), Rom was a welcome relief. Indeed, his quirks and weaknesses were a great foil for the growth of other characters. And if you think he was unredeemable, he was almost the believable hero of the occupation arc.
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I like Nog, too. DS9 did the impossible by actually making the Ferengi interesting. Unfortuantely, I think they took the comedy a bit too far and it wore a bit thin for me. I think the key is to make them just different enough that they are amusing but still somewhat believable. By taking the comedy to the extreme you make them cartoonish and an ill fit for the rest of the story.
Benjamin Lafayette Sisko is my favorite character. I really like the fact that DS9 took a different approach when it came to it's Captain. I like that he's a family man, he experienced the loss of his wife in the line of duty, and he arrived on the station with some mental baggage. He didn't want to be there, anywhere but there. As his character grows over the course of the series, the station and Bajor becomes home to him, and learns to embrace being not just a Starfleet Officer, but the Emissary as well. I like that he likes baseball, that he has Jake there with him, that we get to see him come home to Earth to visit his dad, and I like the fact that we got to see him get promoted from Commander to Captain. With other Captains, it was all about how they sacrificed their personal lives for their careers, so it was nice to see a Captain that had a son, and at first a wife, and then meeting Cassidy and having a relationship with her, and finally getting married again.
I also like the fact that Sisko is a total badass. He wants to be on the front lines taking care of business, and he doesn't back down from a fight from anyone, not matter what race they are. When the going gets tough, the Captain gets a warship with quantum torpedoes, additional armor platting and a cloaking device, to say nothing about upgrading DS9 with 5,000 photons and phaser banks. He's also a great leader, and when he makes a decision, he is decisive about it and sticks by that decision. That's the kind of leader I would want to serve under, and I think all these things are what makes him great.
I know some people weren't fond of Avery Brooks' acting, but I really enjoyed how he portrayed Sisko because it was so different from everything we were used to seeing.
I also like the fact that Sisko is a total badass. He wants to be on the front lines taking care of business, and he doesn't back down from a fight from anyone, not matter what race they are. When the going gets tough, the Captain gets a warship with quantum torpedoes, additional armor platting and a cloaking device, to say nothing about upgrading DS9 with 5,000 photons and phaser banks. He's also a great leader, and when he makes a decision, he is decisive about it and sticks by that decision. That's the kind of leader I would want to serve under, and I think all these things are what makes him great.
I know some people weren't fond of Avery Brooks' acting, but I really enjoyed how he portrayed Sisko because it was so different from everything we were used to seeing.
I'm actually very surprised how many people aren't a fan of Dax. She was my second favorite character, maybe it's because I'm a woman and she represented the strength that us women can have or the fact that she was Sisko's adviser almost, I loved her character so much. When she died I almost cried, and the girl the took her place just did NOT sit right with me, I could not stand her.
^ No, to me Kira represented the strength that women can have. My dislike of Jadzia has nothing to do with her being male or female and there's no need to bring her sex into the debate ala "you guys just don't like her 'cause she's a strong female character (tm)!"
Jadzia... there were multiple problems with the character and none have to do with her being a lady;
1) The Trill where not very well defined, it wasn't very well explained how exactly the joining worked (was the Symbiont just a vessel for the memories of the other hosts? Or was "Jadzia Dax" really a "mental fusion" of Jadzia and all the others? They flipped back and forth on that with Jadzia randomly going from "I'm Curzon" to "I'm not and never was Curzon I only have his memories!"
2) She was ridiculously perfect at times and her past lives were used as excuses to give her whatever character trait or interest the story required. Most of the time we were only told that Jadzia had the qualities she had and never shown.
3) When it came down to it Jadzia was not a very interesing character, look at the episode where she meets the former hosts of Dax; each of them (male and female) is a very interesting character...and then there's Jadzia, just there, like a white wall for the others to play off. What little personality Jadzia has seems to come from Dax.
4) She is, in my opinion not a very strong person, look at "Dax" the episode that really made me dislike her: everybody around her, all her friends are ripping their ass open to save her and all she does is sit there, look sorta sad, like a pouting little girl.
5) The actress' acting was rather wooden.
Now I agree that the character would have been a challenge to write and act. But the end result was, to me, not very interesting, and would not have been any more interesting if she had two furit and a vege.
Jadzia... there were multiple problems with the character and none have to do with her being a lady;
1) The Trill where not very well defined, it wasn't very well explained how exactly the joining worked (was the Symbiont just a vessel for the memories of the other hosts? Or was "Jadzia Dax" really a "mental fusion" of Jadzia and all the others? They flipped back and forth on that with Jadzia randomly going from "I'm Curzon" to "I'm not and never was Curzon I only have his memories!"
2) She was ridiculously perfect at times and her past lives were used as excuses to give her whatever character trait or interest the story required. Most of the time we were only told that Jadzia had the qualities she had and never shown.
3) When it came down to it Jadzia was not a very interesing character, look at the episode where she meets the former hosts of Dax; each of them (male and female) is a very interesting character...and then there's Jadzia, just there, like a white wall for the others to play off. What little personality Jadzia has seems to come from Dax.
4) She is, in my opinion not a very strong person, look at "Dax" the episode that really made me dislike her: everybody around her, all her friends are ripping their ass open to save her and all she does is sit there, look sorta sad, like a pouting little girl.
5) The actress' acting was rather wooden.
Now I agree that the character would have been a challenge to write and act. But the end result was, to me, not very interesting, and would not have been any more interesting if she had two furit and a vege.
I'm not saying I only like her because she is a women or that I'm expecting others to agree with me about why I like her, her gender didn't matter as much as the idea that her character was a strong woman.
I like her because she was the stability and support that Sisko needed at times.
I like her because she was the stability and support that Sisko needed at times.
Ah okay, I agree, her scenes with Sisko were the best she had and sometimes she had good scenes with Kira. I misread you, I apologize.
I didn´t like Keiko dealing with the Cardassian Rugal. He hated Cardassians and therefore Cardassian food. Although she knew about that, she offered him a Cardassian meal instead of a Bajoran. She could simply have asked him what he wanted to eat. On the other hand I think she meant well.......
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Favorite: Quark or Garak.
Least favorite: 1st season Bashir. Dreadful.
Least favorite: 1st season Bashir. Dreadful.
I agree with Orphalesion: Kira better represents women's strength than Dax. I would go so far as to say that Dax's strength was more reactionary than developmental, supporting the Klingon and Dominion War storylines rather than being a centerpiece. I have written a lot about my feelings about Dax in these forums, and I may have a reputation for picking apart Terry Farrell's assertions about the difficulties of playing Dax. However, Dax contributed much to the stories, just not very well as a main character. Great warrior--standing next to Sisko,Worf, and Kira. Great woman--standing next to Worf or Lenara Kahn. Great outside--when reacting to Quark, Odo or Kira.
What really makes me associate Kira, not Dax, with a strong woman is Nana Visitor's physical performances. Kira felt like a fighter: not that she was necessarily physically strong or talented, but that she was filled with determination. The fight in OPS in Way of the Warrior says a lot. Kira is struggling to her last breath to fight, and even if she is injured, it does not feel like she was weak at all. Dax, on the other hand, looks choreographed. It's too easy to take down the Klingons. Farrell got better, but Visitor was always better at embodying the warrior.
I was surprised when I found out that I like Kira, despite her hard shell, she indeed represents strength. And I soaked up all the news about Kira the show and the Litverse had to offer. From frighting the Cardassians during the Occupation, the surrogacy for the O´Briens and her lovestory with Odo. One of the best Trek characters. In view of the fact that I warmed late to DS9. I started to read the novels without having seen the show at large. Only single episodes. And Kira was fascinating from the beginning.
What I really love about Kira is that by the end of the show she has really grown as a character. She starts out as a soldier unable to adjust to peacetime and very hardened. It takes years for her to let her guard down and to allow herself to relax, sometimes show weakness (I'd call it to be strong enough to show weakness) and accept her own femininity.
As to Damar, I was saddened that he died in the last episode. But he died for Cardassia. And I was happy, when David Mack
And there is still Rugal. A Cardassian raised by Bajoran foster parents to hate Cardassians.
Appeared only once on-screen, but reappeared in Una McCormacks Neverending Sacrifice, one of the best Cardassia novels ever.
introduced Mirror Damar in the Litverse. So, contrary to what Damar said, there is more than one Damar. One of them still exists in the MU. 
And there is still Rugal. A Cardassian raised by Bajoran foster parents to hate Cardassians.
Appeared only once on-screen, but reappeared in Una McCormacks Neverending Sacrifice, one of the best Cardassia novels ever.
Lol, DS9 is that a sports team? just kidding
least favourite: I don't like how Rom's character is written
favourite: difficult... Quark is always so much fun!
Another blind DS9 fan here - I grew up with DS9.
Probably Odo is my most favorite, but I believe one could mention anyone from the main cast or the often-recurring characters and I would be able to explain why I love the character.
Probably Odo is my most favorite, but I believe one could mention anyone from the main cast or the often-recurring characters and I would be able to explain why I love the character.
I think I view Dax as such a strong female character because I'm looking at her strength not as a "fighting" strength per say but a mental strength. She has all these voices in her head each with a different personality and she has to take on a new personal entirely after she was joined it essentially changed who she was and she had to come to terms with this new identity, not to mention the tireless years she spent in preparation to thins, she worked her whole life to be joined, it's all she wanted and all she focused on her whole life, I feel a lot of viewers can relate to her ambition and drive.
on the other hand Kira is a fighter with a hard exterior, but she grew up in that environment it's all she has ever known
I know I'm biased but I really think Dax is a strong (mentally) female character
on the other hand Kira is a fighter with a hard exterior, but she grew up in that environment it's all she has ever known
I know I'm biased but I really think Dax is a strong (mentally) female character
