Favorite 23rd century era Star Trek Movies?
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If this had been the case, I would have been six when trek filmed its last scene, and TOS was only repeated on TV in the nineties between TNG runs on BBC. There certainly wouldn't be enough interest in the 79/episodes and two movies to sustain an online community such as this, but I wouldn't rule out a reboot movie series around 1995, along the lines of the Flintstones movies.
I prefer what we have.
I went with TVH and ST:B, because I like fun. And I went with TUC because I like political thrillers. 
Wrath and Generations were good. The rest were Trek Lite.
TMP and Khan are the only two that I rewatch on a regular basis, the rest of them (and the TNG movies) don't do anything for me anymore.
The one with the whales - the Voyage Home I think it's called.. Kelvin universe isn't Star Trek to me, so I ignore that.
I voted TWOK
TVH and
TUC
TVH and
TUC
I went for The Search for Spock & The Voyage Home. Also The Wrath of Khan (forgot to vote).
I think TMP is seriously underrated. TVH is probably the most overrated film after a new hope.
To each their own, but, given a choice, I'll watch TVH before TMP any day. And usually do.
I admire TMP's ambition, but seldom feel any urge to revisit it, while TVH always leaves me with a smile on my face, no matter how times I've seen it.
Into Darkness
Star Trek (2009)
The Motion Picture
Star Trek (2009)
The Motion Picture
TWOK, TVH, 2009
TSFS and TUC are just underneath those three.
The problem with TMP is that I can't watch it in one sitting. That knocks it out of my top. Which probably says more about me than it does about the film. I think it looks stunning and I'd put the visuals up against anything made in Star Trek since. At the beginning of the film, Spock's hair is the same length as mine. The Klingons make an impression. There are some great guitar riffs whenever V'Ger shows up. And V'Ger has some awesome screen-savers. Then there's the deep, sometimes mesmerizing musical score.
If only I could watch it in one go... The pace is deadly at some points. I'm all about savoring the moment, but sometimes TMP takes it too far. Not as far as 2001: A Space Odyssey, though. It took me decades to be able to watch that movie from start to finish.
TSFS and TUC are just underneath those three.
The problem with TMP is that I can't watch it in one sitting. That knocks it out of my top. Which probably says more about me than it does about the film. I think it looks stunning and I'd put the visuals up against anything made in Star Trek since. At the beginning of the film, Spock's hair is the same length as mine. The Klingons make an impression. There are some great guitar riffs whenever V'Ger shows up. And V'Ger has some awesome screen-savers. Then there's the deep, sometimes mesmerizing musical score.
If only I could watch it in one go... The pace is deadly at some points. I'm all about savoring the moment, but sometimes TMP takes it too far. Not as far as 2001: A Space Odyssey, though. It took me decades to be able to watch that movie from start to finish.
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I voted for the Nicholas Meyer directed films. They're just the most watchable imho, & there's a solid reason why they bookend the series of films that took place after they changed things up, post-TMP
I don't want to bash TMP, because it's great in some ways, but it's the least watchable imho, because it suffers from being too self-important. It's trying too hard to be the lofty high art that its creator & its fanbase had begun considering it, at that time
As a result, it's visually long winded. It has a real pacing issue, & there's a lot in there that is just pointless. Frankly, Decker & Ilia are just a waste of screen time, left from a chewed up old Phase II concept. They are characters no one has cared about, either before the film nor after, not the audience, nor the other characters. Couple that with the choice to use so much FX porn & you drag the movie down, even though some of those FX are visionary.
Now, a lot was sacrificed in the move that happened between TMP & TWoK, because it switched from an event based concept to a character based one. TWoK & pretty much everything that came after for them, are not telling stories of discovery or sci-fi phenomena, the same way the series did. There is some of that in there, but they instead gear those films primarily around being character driven.
More character growth happens to those people in the 9 hours of film between TWoK & TUC than in the entirety of the 79 televised episodes they appeared in, & clearly that's what audiences wanted, to better know these people we'd grown to love, to know their sons & brothers, their enemies, their bonds with one another... their world.
TWoK & TUC give us the best of that imho, enough so that it has shaped the entire franchise ever since, especially the new cast's modern incarnation. It IS the new formula, because of those two films, and to some extent, what came between them
I don't want to bash TMP, because it's great in some ways, but it's the least watchable imho, because it suffers from being too self-important. It's trying too hard to be the lofty high art that its creator & its fanbase had begun considering it, at that time
As a result, it's visually long winded. It has a real pacing issue, & there's a lot in there that is just pointless. Frankly, Decker & Ilia are just a waste of screen time, left from a chewed up old Phase II concept. They are characters no one has cared about, either before the film nor after, not the audience, nor the other characters. Couple that with the choice to use so much FX porn & you drag the movie down, even though some of those FX are visionary.
Now, a lot was sacrificed in the move that happened between TMP & TWoK, because it switched from an event based concept to a character based one. TWoK & pretty much everything that came after for them, are not telling stories of discovery or sci-fi phenomena, the same way the series did. There is some of that in there, but they instead gear those films primarily around being character driven.
More character growth happens to those people in the 9 hours of film between TWoK & TUC than in the entirety of the 79 televised episodes they appeared in, & clearly that's what audiences wanted, to better know these people we'd grown to love, to know their sons & brothers, their enemies, their bonds with one another... their world.
TWoK & TUC give us the best of that imho, enough so that it has shaped the entire franchise ever since, especially the new cast's modern incarnation. It IS the new formula, because of those two films, and to some extent, what came between them
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