Eureka: Final Season (Discussion, spoilers, etc.)
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That's what i was thinking early on, the Holly was portrayed...but this version of Holly seems waaaay to close to the real thin to make me think that tat it isn't Wen (though i thinkt hat would be interesting!)
I don't know. I'm inclined to cut Allison some slack here. I mean, she just had her wedding in a sinking sub for pete's sake. All she wanted was a carefree, cozy honeymoon in some lovely romantic setting--and instead she ended up doing repairs on a leaky, broken-down cabin with no food and no working plumbing. Plus, the ceiling collapsed on her and she got slimed with icky black gunk in the shower. Under the circumstances, I thought she was showing the patience of a saint!
Yeah, sure, Jack meant well and was trying to make a grand romantic gesture, but let's not forget that he made this decision unilaterally--and sprang it on her without any warning, when she was looking forward to a relaxing romantic getaway with her new husband.
Look at it this way: suppose you were hoping to go to a big Star Trek convention for your birthday, but your significant other "surprises" you by revealing that, no, you're going to spend the weekend remodeling the bathroom instead . . . in one-hundred degree temperatures and no air conditioning.
I don't think you'd have to be a "total whiney jerk" to protest. I'm actually surprised that people are blaming Allison here. Jack strikes me as the bone-headed one.
Who in their right mind thinks that any woman wants to do construction work on a dirty, rundown cabin on her honeymoon? And he doesn't even bother to run this idea by her first?
No wonder his first marriage failed!
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^^ But she was bitchy about it from the start, not just when all those things happened to her.
Well, that's why I said it looks like there was continuity of consciousness since she was plugged into the matrix. But even if it turns out she's a copy, she's still a conscious intelligence. It's the kind of philosophical issue that real SF deals with, but it's not creepy.
Because he "surprised" her with a broken-down, dirty cabin and a "fun" weekend of home repairs without even checking to see if that was she wanted to do. Part of building a solid marriage is taking into consideration your partner's expectations and preferences. Did he seriously think that Allison's idea of the perfect honeymoon was fixing up an old shack? Has he met her? She doesn't exactly seem like the camping type.
My girlfriend's birthday was a few weeks ago. Now, I'm no relationship expert, but I was smart enough to buy her flowers and take her out to her favorite Italian restaurant. And I like to think that, if I was going to suggest hiking through Death Valley instead, I would at least run the idea up the flagpole and get her opinion first.
Again, who in their right mind thinks any woman wants to rebuild a hunting cabin on their honeymoon?
If Jack wants to put down roots and build them a cozy wilderness retreat . . . fine, make that a weekend project over the next few months. But maybe he should have consulted Allison first before hijacking their honeymoon for a weekend of roughing it in the woods?
Allison was a remarkably good sport, considering. I don't know what Jack was thinking . . . .
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Any man who thinks his bride wants to do manual labor on her honeymoon is an idiot.
My point exactly. I don't blame Allison for being pissed!
That's like bringing brocoli and spinach to a children's birthday party and wondering why the kids aren't more enthusiastic . . . .
Although the places she wanted to go were pretty fucking boring too considering she has enough money in the bank to hunt human human beings in a wildlife preserve.
I assume that their finances aren't joined yet?
Jack is probably proud that he has a few grand saved up even after sending Zoe into college. Alison on the other hand, at her level, as the some time administrator of GD, and inheriting Stark's money as well to support his son, I don't think that she would just be a millionaire but she's possibly a billionaire with very conservative requirements that she will continue to be a billionaire for some time yet.
But she should be going to one of the secret countries they don't tell poor people about for her vacation, or if she goes to Figi, then she should be able to clear out the country while while they're there, I mean a few million might not be able to clear out the locals, but she could certainly displace the other tourists for a week.
I assume that their finances aren't joined yet?
Jack is probably proud that he has a few grand saved up even after sending Zoe into college. Alison on the other hand, at her level, as the some time administrator of GD, and inheriting Stark's money as well to support his son, I don't think that she would just be a millionaire but she's possibly a billionaire with very conservative requirements that she will continue to be a billionaire for some time yet.
But she should be going to one of the secret countries they don't tell poor people about for her vacation, or if she goes to Figi, then she should be able to clear out the country while while they're there, I mean a few million might not be able to clear out the locals, but she could certainly displace the other tourists for a week.
Except that Eureka is in Oregon and Storybrooke is in Maine, which puts them on opposite sides of the continent!
Then again, Haven and Storybrooke and Collinsport are all in Maine, so that sure sounds like a fanfic waiting to be written!
Except that Eureka is in Oregon and Storybrooke is in Maine, which puts them on opposite sides of the continent!
Then again, Haven and Storybrooke and Collinsport are all in Maine, so that sure sounds like a fanfic waiting to be written!
Forget Salem, Mass. Maine is the world's magical epicenter.
Except that Eureka is in Oregon and Storybrooke is in Maine, which puts them on opposite sides of the continent!
Then again, Haven and Storybrooke and Collinsport are all in Maine, so that sure sounds like a fanfic waiting to be written!
Forget Salem, Mass. Maine is the world's magical epicenter.
Wasn't The Dead Zone set in Maine as well?
Whenever someone goes on about Maine or Toledo my heart goes instantly back to reruns of M*A*S*H* in my youth.
I'm 36.
I didn't start really digging TV till maybe 1978?
I didn't start really digging TV till maybe 1978?
Nope. Allison's been married twice before. Kevin's father died before she married Stark-I think he was in the army, or Air Force.
Then Stark bit it.
Jack had better watch his step.
But clearly she had left it up to him and she was expecting to be surprised, and he had gotten signals from her that she liked that aspect of him. Obviously, he misjudged and came off as a bit of a doofus (as he always does), but she also came off as shallow and bitchy. His heart was in the right place while she was rude, until the end.
Okay, but if there ISN'T continuity of consciousness, She's still dead.
There may be a conscious intelligence walking around, but it ain't Holly.I think of it if it were me. If I die and someone makes a clone copy with a copy of my mind, well, I'M never going to know about it. I'll still be dead. Whatever's walking around may have my memories and looks, and it may make people who knew me happy, but it doesn't do ME any good.
But they want all your stuff.
They want your qualifications and your resume.
That includes character witnesses, referees and testimonials who are going to be saying that they're cool because you're cool, and they might even not be alerted to the fact that they are not you.
They want that 20 dollar cheque gammy sends you at Christmas which you never cash.
They want your socks.
They want everything.
Giving a copy a life to lead is one thing, but inviting them into thinking that they can pick up where you left off and make babies with your wife on top of your freshly dug grave is a horse of a different colour.
And that's all if you just stay dead.
Yes, but what was actually bothering me...
"Stay Tuned For Powerful Mondays!"
F*&& YOU SKIFFY!
If Eureka is so POWERFUL, then explain the cancellation?
LIARS!
LIARS!
PANTS ON FIRE!
Truth in Advertising.
"Weak listless overly expensive programming we've already cancelled, but please watch anyway."
Unless it is powerful and they cancelled it anyway?
Is Syfy afraid of powerful programming?
They can't handle the power?
They want your qualifications and your resume.
That includes character witnesses, referees and testimonials who are going to be saying that they're cool because you're cool, and they might even not be alerted to the fact that they are not you.
They want that 20 dollar cheque gammy sends you at Christmas which you never cash.
They want your socks.
They want everything.
Giving a copy a life to lead is one thing, but inviting them into thinking that they can pick up where you left off and make babies with your wife on top of your freshly dug grave is a horse of a different colour.
And that's all if you just stay dead.
Yes, but what was actually bothering me...
"Stay Tuned For Powerful Mondays!"
F*&& YOU SKIFFY!
If Eureka is so POWERFUL, then explain the cancellation?
LIARS!
LIARS!
PANTS ON FIRE!
Truth in Advertising.
"Weak listless overly expensive programming we've already cancelled, but please watch anyway."
Unless it is powerful and they cancelled it anyway?
Is Syfy afraid of powerful programming?
They can't handle the power?
