Poll Ethan Peck's Spock

[Dar70]

Still not how canon works.

Let me guess whatever the current people in charge says is canon...correct?

 

[fireproof78]

Let me guess whatever the current people in charge says is canon...correct?

That's how canon works.

Fans have no say in canon, or the official body of work because *checks notes* fans have no official role in the production of the show.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Let me guess whatever the current people in charge says is canon...correct?

Canon is the collected works of the franchise. Your likes and dislikes are irrelevant to canon. Various retcons are irrelevant to canon. Canon remains the movies and tv shows produced by the owners of the IP, be they Desilu, Paramount or CBS. As consumers we don’t get a say in canon, just in what things in the franchise we like or dislike.

 

[Dar70]

Canon is the collected works of the franchise. Your likes and dislikes are irrelevant to canon. Various retcons are irrelevant to canon. Canon remains the movies and tv shows produced by the owners of the IP, be they Desilu, Paramount or CBS. As consumers we don’t get a say in canon, just in what things in the franchise we like or dislike.

So the Star Wars Droids are part of the film canon..? The Holiday Special.??
franchises have de-canonized things before.

 

[Dar70]

That's how canon works.

Fans have no say in canon, or the official body of work because *checks notes* fans have no official role in the production of the show.

I get that. But if both are Canon Pike has a huge problem when he goes back to Vina.

 

[Nerys Myk]

So the Star Wars Droids are part of the film canon..? The Holiday Special.??
franchises have de-canonized things before.

No, they have removed things from continuity. Though as often happens things slip back in when you least expect it. Have a Happy Life Day,

 

[Nerys Myk]

I get that. But if both are Canon Pike has a huge problem when he goes back to Vina.

Will he?

 

[Dar70]

Will he?

Yes. He has a doppelganger to deal with.

 

[Daedalus]

Yes. He has a doppelganger to deal with.

They'll just conveniently forget about that.

 

[fireproof78]

I get that. But if both are Canon Pike has a huge problem when he goes back to Vina.

No he won't.


He'll get his fantasy and she'll have hers.

 

[MarcKle1964]

Still not how canon works.

What happens when Canon disagrees with Canon? Later canon takes precedence, the scriptwriters all had access to Gene's character guide and Spock's was being revised almost show by show by DC Fontana. If a later show violates it, it's bad scriptwriting or being done to drive the plot....like the card game Fluxx, the new canon still takes precedence!

 

[Mudd]

This poll/discussion is specifically directed to those who has seen substantial amounts of both the TOS era and Strange New Worlds.

There seems to be some growing sentiment within the fanbase- not necessarily against Ethan Peck, but not liking how Spock is being written in SNW.

Is there, really?





I doubt it.

Peck's brilliant. This is the best version of Spock since the original series.

 

[fireproof78]

Later canon takes precedence

Why?

So TNG means more than TOS, so we discard TOS about the Eugenics Wars?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Why?

So TNG means more than TOS, so we discard TOS about the Eugenics Wars?

Well something has to be the truth, or else there is no truth.

 

[Mudd]

What happens when Canon disagrees with Canon?

Then both are canon.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Then both are canon.

Then canon is a meaningless term, at least when it comes to a discussion about continuity.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Then canon is a meaningless term, at least when it comes to a discussion about continuity.

Canon and continuity are two entirely different things. Always have been.

 

[Nerys Myk]

What happens when Canon disagrees with Canon? Later canon takes precedence, the scriptwriters all had access to Gene's character guide and Spock's was being revised almost show by show by DC Fontana. If a later show violates it, it's bad scriptwriting or being done to drive the plot....like the card game Fluxx, the new canon still takes precedence!

That’s called continuity.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well something has to be the truth, or else there is no truth.

It’s fiction.

 

[fireproof78]

Then canon is a meaningless term, at least when it comes to a discussion about continuity.

No.

Continuity is not canon. Canon is the official body of work. It can contradict all it wants and has since TOS.