"Enterprise" too advanced for 22nd Century
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Why? That's just gratuitous continuity porn that most viewers won't understand anyway. And given that Sarek is a character in the show, it seems likely that any "context" relative to TOS will be provided through him.
A connection point. Sarek is likely all they will need, but this event should be taking place around the same time as Enterprise is getting to Vega Colony, or within the year following said event. A nod at The Cage would be fitting, even if in passing. Sarek would still be in his period of not talking to his son after all.
I don't think it would be fitting at all. Why should every single thing in the entire Star Trek universe revolve exclusively around the starship Enterprise? The universe is a big place. There should be countless things going on that have nothing to do with the Enterprise or Spock or Kirk. Insisting on connecting every last little thing to TOS just makes the universe feel smaller and more artificial.
Realistically, as far as the larger Federation is concerned, the Enterprise is just one starship out of dozens, and the mission to Talos was just one mission out of hundreds. And this series is set roughly a year after "The Cage." No doubt Pike and his crew have done a bunch of important things in the interim, and so have many other crews. So there's absolutely no reason why that single mission of that single ship would have to be referenced in a story set a year later and focused on a completely different set of characters.
But why do you need to? It's gratuitous. It's nothing more than a lazy, cheap sop to fans. Unless it serves the story Discovery is telling, it should not be there.
Just for fun, here's a little comparison of the tech from 1964's "The Cage" and the new Discovery trailer from 2017:
It already is in one of the threads. I thought it was relevant here because the thread had digressed somewhat to include Discovery, and if nothing else the pictures of Pike's Enterprise's technology fit the thread.
Throwaway references are fun--Enterprise used them to great effect. Hearing "Vega Colony" referred to on Enterprise always made me smile and think of The Cage. But I guess those were lazy, cheap sops (no hyperbole there!) used by lazy cheap writers. If only Christopher L. Bennett had been in the writers room to fix their mistakes.
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I think getting back on track to discussing Enterprise would be a good idea, folks.
Clearly "The Cage" is more advanced. Discovery has holographic HUD. The Cage uses paper, something you can actually touch and hold!Just for fun, here's a little comparison of the tech from 1964's "The Cage" and the new Discovery trailer from 2017:
Also, Discovery's Hologram is blurry while The Cage has a clear video of Spock.
The USS Enterprise looks clean and advanced, Shenzhou is lumpy and dirty.
I want my analog dials and toggle switches! Analog dials and toggle switches are the FUTURE DAMMIT!
Works for me.Just for fun, here's a little comparison of the tech from 1964's "The Cage" and the new Discovery trailer from 2017:
Yes. I'll cleverly bring the thread back to topic by saying that I liked the gratuitous fanservice in Enterprise. Bring it on!
IMO, the question is that "Would the producers have used technology similar to Discovery if they had been able to or would they have stuck to the level of advanced tech that they were able to manage? Personally, I think they would have, so it's more of a revision (similar to the original (and often prefered) view on the pre-TMP v post-TMP (plus most of ENT) versions of the Klingons and Romulans rather than a retcon.
