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[Dukhat]

Oh I missed that, hm well that uh throws a wrench in the works

I've never seen that Ent-F display with the Vesta on it before either.

Yeah, first I’ve seen of it as well. Apparently during filming everyone was going under the assumption that the ship Shelby was on was the Vesta class Hikaru Sulu. I don’t recall if ‘Enterprise-F’ was mentioned in dialogue other than maybe a voiceover recorded after the fact.

 

[Tuskin38]

I know there's 3D concept renders of the bridge set with the Vesta on the displays.

But the Vesta also had 4 nacelles, so I assumed that was just placeholder for the Stargazer.

 

[Dukhat]

I know there's 3D concept renders of the bridge set with the Vesta on the displays.

But the Vesta also had 4 nacelles, so I assumed that was just placeholder for the Stargazer.

I saw those as well. I pointed them out to Mark Rademaker, who hadn’t seen them before, so he didn’t create them.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

I hadn't seen the USS Picard plaque before as well. The registry number alone is worth mention: NCC-81701, which falls in line with the show's tongue-in-cheek poke at the new USS Stargazer NCC-82893 from the previous season.

Mark

 

[Dukhat]

I hadn't seen the USS Picard plaque before as well. The registry number alone is worth mention: NCC-81701, which falls in line with the show's tongue-in-cheek poke at the new USS Stargazer NCC-82893 from the previous season.

Mark

81701 is way better than 1701-G.

 

[Firebird]

Yeah, first I’ve seen of it as well. Apparently during filming everyone was going under the assumption that the ship Shelby was on was the Vesta class Hikaru Sulu. I don’t recall if ‘Enterprise-F’ was mentioned in dialogue other than maybe a voiceover recorded after the fact.

All the dialogue changes were done in post. I dread to rewatch the season for any reason, but that might be an interesting excuse to find the questionable edits and ADR. There’s also so much of the performances left in the Final Cut that matches up to the original intention. I always had an instinct Picard’s reaction to the Enterprise-G didn’t make sense, and seeing that plaque put all the pieces together.

I remember a lot of folks noticing how all the mentions of the Titan-A being a “Neo-Constitution-class” in the first episode were done off-screen, so there’s some post-production fuckery there right off the bat.

 

[knightgrace]

I raise you a refitted Enterprise-A in TNG, and keep with that all the way through.

The way modern Trek treats refits means it could look like anything by the time Picard rolls around

A banana.

 

[Dukhat]

Apparently they were also going to put new nacelles on the DSC Nimitz class, stretch the saucer out and make it a PIC-era ship. Luckily that didn't happen (although it did get new nacelles for its appearance in SNW, but period-correct round nacelles.)

 

[Set Harth]

I hadn't seen the USS Picard plaque before as well. The registry number alone is worth mention: NCC-81701, which falls in line with the show's tongue-in-cheek poke at the new USS Stargazer NCC-82893 from the previous season.

Mark

from leading zeroes to leading eights...

 

[The Wormhole]

Leading eights are less inflammatory, but sticking 8 at the start of a pre-existing registry number is all kinds of hella stupid. Makes sense it's a Matalas thang.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Leading eights are less inflammatory, but sticking 8 at the start of a pre-existing registry number is all kinds of hella stupid. Makes sense it's a Matalas thang.

Why? If they were making a new ship, and an 8xxxx number matching the original registry was available, would it be so weird that they'd decide to use it as a tribute?

 

[Dukhat]

Leading eights are less inflammatory, but sticking 8 at the start of a pre-existing registry number is all kinds of hella stupid. Makes sense it's a Matalas thang.

Better an 8 than, say, a 2. Which would mean they don't know shit about registry numbers.

 

[The Wormhole]

Why? If they were making a new ship, and an 8xxxx number matching the original registry was available, would it be so weird that they'd decide to use it as a tribute?

Yes

 

[Tuskin38]

 

[David cgc]

Why? If they were making a new ship, and an 8xxxx number matching the original registry was available, would it be so weird that they'd decide to use it as a tribute?

I would expect it to be a 9, considering that the original Titan was an 80000-series ship and was over twenty years old. Seems odd that there'd be less than 2000 units in the meantime (my headcanon is the class ship is the USS Constitution NCC-91700, though I suppose 81700 works; the Enterprise-A and -B were mostly contemporaries, too).

Yes, the Stargazer was 82xxx, but ships being described as "new" can be superficial and unconvincing (the Enterprise in TMP was almost thirty years old and also almost totally new, the Discovery was 700 units behind the state-of-the-art ships but is accepted as a new-build because of the word of... a civilian... murderer... who thought the floors were too clean...), so Rios's Stargazer could've had some lightyears on it (and it would help with the confusing conversation referring to it as a "refit" if it had just gotten an eighteen-year overhaul).

 

[Dukhat]

I got the impression that the Stargazer was brand-new as of 2401, and that Rios was her first captain.

 

[Tomalak]

Although of course, it was a "refit".

 

[The Wormhole]

Yes, Matalas doesn't understand what the word refit means. We've been over that before.

 

[Tomalak]

Although evidently he does know what "rewrite" means.

 

[Dukhat]

Yes, Matalas doesn't understand what the word refit means. We've been over that before.

Although evidently he does know what "rewrite" means.

In the Mirror universe, this would be reversed and we'd all be much happier. All Hail Evil Terry!