What a depressing photo.
What a depressing photo.
How?What a depressing photo.
Wasn't it later in Picard season 2? I thought just brand synergy stuff.Respectfully, I don't like it at all. An animated show, which has the ability to come up with completely unique designs without worrying about budget, makes a ship that is essentially just an Excelsior with Sovereign nacelles.![]()
Wasn't it later in Picard season 2? I thought just brand synergy stuff.
I just checked Memory Beta, which has orthos of both ships and... I've learned something today.No, that was the Excelsior II, not the Obena. Different ship, and I didn’t like that one either, for other reasons.
Wasn't it later in Picard season 2? I thought just brand synergy stuff.
No, that was the Excelsior II, not the Obena. Different ship, and I didn’t like that one either, for other reasons.
I actually really liked the Excelsior II, and with its registry numbers, my new head canon is that a lot of the Excelsiors we see during TNG are actually Excelsior II classes.

People said the same thing about the TMP Enterprise, really. We got over it.
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I would expect it to be a 9, considering that the original Titan was an 80000-series ship and was over twenty years old. Seems odd that there'd be less than 2000 units in the meantime (my headcanon is the class ship is the USS Constitution NCC-91700, though I suppose 81700 works; the Enterprise-A and -B were mostly contemporaries, too).
Yes, the Stargazer was 82xxx, but ships being described as "new" can be superficial and unconvincing (the Enterprise in TMP was almost thirty years old and also almost totally new, the Discovery was 700 units behind the state-of-the-art ships but is accepted as a new-build because of the word of... a civilian... murderer... who thought the floors were too clean...), so Rios's Stargazer could've had some lightyears on it (and it would help with the confusing conversation referring to it as a "refit" if it had just gotten an eighteen-year overhaul).
Would quite have liked to see a Sovereign-class USS Excelsior, too; maybe a Vesta-class or styled similar Voyager-A, likewise.
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