Enterprise E
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Interesting; this is the first I’ve heard of this (although I had heard about the USS Picard rumor but could never find any official source to back it up.) Was the dedication plaque ever seen?
Someone shared a picture of the plaque that was made and installed on the set over in Trek Tech or Fan Art, which is where I got the details from. I don't remember the specific thread at the moment.
This seems to be a persistent fan belief, but ships are named after living people all the time.
The US Navy commissioned a USS Ronald Reagan, USS George HW Bush and a USS Jimmy Carter while those individuals were still alive. That's before you get into the countless other ships currently in service named after people who are still living.
Finally found the thread where the Picard discussion happened. It started with the posting of the Picard’s dedication plaque towards the bottom of the page, and continued to the next:
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Set blueprint exchange
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Concept Art - Authenticity Unverified I vaguely recall seeing this somewhere before, but the description is interesting with the unverified nature of it. Anyone here have any thoughts? Makes me think of a Vogon, one of whom was described as having "highly domed...
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Finally found the thread where the Picard discussion happened. It started with the posting of the Picard’s dedication plaque towards the bottom of the page, and continued to the next:
Set blueprint exchange
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Concept Art - Authenticity Unverified I vaguely recall seeing this somewhere before, but the description is interesting with the unverified nature of it. Anyone here have any thoughts? Makes me think of a Vogon, one of whom was described as having "highly domed...
So...
Enterprise-E still in service but was recently lost or destroyed while Worf was in command.
USS Titan-A renamed to USS Picard NCC-81701
Odyssey class USS Enterprise-F originally the Vesta class USS Sulu
So other than the dumb joke at Worf's expense to establish what happened to the E, all of these original ideas were better than what we got when they changed it all at the last minute.
It makes me very curious who came up with these ideas during post-production and why anyone thought they'd be to the benefit of the story.
I would have been perfectly content with having the Ent-E get destroyed defending Earth and then having the Ent-D recommissioned.
Certainly a much more honorable ending for the E than a goddamn punchline.
And to add, we were supposed to see the Voyager-A in PIC as well (as a Vesta class), but when they found out Prodigy had their own Voyager-A, they instead used the STO Pathfinder class as the Voyager-B, which was all kinds of stupid because then it retconned the PRO Voyager-A to only have a short lifespan despite it being a brand-new ship.
The final issue of the Lower Decks comic shows the ignominious end of the Enterprise-E. Spoilers ahead:
The Enterprise-E joins forces with the Cerritos and the Ambassador-class USS Illinois for some light comedy shenanigans, which feature Captain Worf kicking ass per usual, having equipped his Enterprise with a malfunctioning cloaking device for plot-related fun. At the end of said adventure though, the whole Enterprise crew had been evacuated, after which the cloaking device "accidentally" turns on, making the ship impossible to find. Cue sitcom-esque laughter and fade to black.
<Fun fact, in the background of the E-E scenes you can see some familiar faces, such as Commander Jae and a Lt. Cmdr Harry Kim!>
Yes, it's a dumb ending, not canon, and contradicts the finale of Lower Decks itself, as it shows the Enterprise-E at Starbase 80 while the comics still have Captain Freeman in full command. But it's been written, so YMMV.
<Fun fact, in the background of the E-E scenes you can see some familiar faces, such as Commander Jae and a Lt. Cmdr Harry Kim!>
Yes, it's a dumb ending, not canon, and contradicts the finale of Lower Decks itself, as it shows the Enterprise-E at Starbase 80 while the comics still have Captain Freeman in full command. But it's been written, so YMMV.
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I thought the Enterprise name was forced on Matalas?
That’s the part of the story I haven’t been able to find confirmation of yet. I really wanna know whose ideas these were.
The only person who would have forced that on Matalas was Kurtzman. And I highly doubt that was how it went down. Because Matalas was on record as stating he wanted to show the Odyssey class Enterprise-F as a tribute to fans who play STO. So that tells me that Matalas was the one who made all these changes.
Well somebody made that plaque, so there is that.
Oh I missed that, hm well that uh throws a wrench in the works
I've never seen that Ent-F display with the Vesta on it before either.
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