How dare they push back when they've been told something looks a certain way for fifty-plus years!
Enterprise bridge....2nd turbolift?
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How dare they push back when they've been told something looks a certain way for fifty-plus years!
Camera lenses make a difference, of course. My guess based on the visual material online right now is...very approximate.
I'm working mostly from the lateral diameter of the "pit" and the apparent widths of consoles, height of the stations, etc.
It's ten or eleven paces for Pike from the turbolift door to his chair.
Given the average length of a 6'1" man's stride, putting the depth of the turbolift alcove/circumferential corridor) at 8 feet and allowing that the chair is (based on the layout they seem to have followed) about 85% of the distance to center, I'm estimating the radius of the bridge proper at about 20-22 feet.
The TMP bridge had a 16-17 foot radius. The TOS bridge, about 14 feet without the turbolift alcove.
It's a rough guess. I could model the set at anywhere from 38 to 50 feet in diameter and have it look about right, depending on where you put the camera.
I'm working mostly from the lateral diameter of the "pit" and the apparent widths of consoles, height of the stations, etc.
It's ten or eleven paces for Pike from the turbolift door to his chair.
Given the average length of a 6'1" man's stride, putting the depth of the turbolift alcove/circumferential corridor) at 8 feet and allowing that the chair is (based on the layout they seem to have followed) about 85% of the distance to center, I'm estimating the radius of the bridge proper at about 20-22 feet.
The TMP bridge had a 16-17 foot radius. The TOS bridge, about 14 feet without the turbolift alcove.
It's a rough guess. I could model the set at anywhere from 38 to 50 feet in diameter and have it look about right, depending on where you put the camera.
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Not that, but it's not reasonable to expect a set made in 1966 to be used for production now.
Which is why you do a reboot. Then you can go hog wild.
It's absolutely not right or reasonable to expect a television or film revisiting of the TOS era to look like it did in the original series. Leave that to fan films.
It's no secret* that I'm not a fan of STD's visual aesthetic. IMO they have done a fantastic job with this set.
I'd tweak the details to suit my tastes, but it's not by accident that no one has ever paid me a penny to do soundstage set design.
*Nor is it of any real interest to anyone but me.
It's no secret* that I'm not a fan of STD's visual aesthetic. IMO they have done a fantastic job with this set.
I'd tweak the details to suit my tastes, but it's not by accident that no one has ever paid me a penny to do soundstage set design.
*Nor is it of any real interest to anyone but me.
Can't say that there's anything I don't like about Discovery's version of the Enterprise bridge. Could be a little less dark (which is ironic when you look at all the lights on there), but overall it all looks pretty good. What I like about the small corridor behind Uhura's and Spock's console is that it squares pretty well with those weird shots of Spock in The Original Series where they took away the console next to him. We can now imagine this corridor has always been there. 
One thing I really like about the new enterprise bridge (as well as TOS bridge) vs the Discovery bridge is how close ops and helm are to the captain's chair. If there's a problem the captain can be down at either console in a hurry, and either ops or helm can reach across if necessary as well.
At the same time I can see why it worked on Discovery originally. Discovery was an isolated ship. The crew were supposedly henpecked and manipulated by a captain that preferred to stand and walk about the bridge and only rarely took a seat. Lorca was more orchestra conductor than a chair jockey and for him the bridge worked perfectly.
At the same time I can see why it worked on Discovery originally. Discovery was an isolated ship. The crew were supposedly henpecked and manipulated by a captain that preferred to stand and walk about the bridge and only rarely took a seat. Lorca was more orchestra conductor than a chair jockey and for him the bridge worked perfectly.
They must be these kind of urinals then...
Since it's not just guys working on the bridge.
Hence the fascination with Number One.
Still don't see the 3 sea shells..
Indeed, with the way they have positioned the bridge inside a larger dome, a corridor behind the consoles and additional doors make a lot of sense …
I had surmised the hallways at the back center of the bridge might lead to conference room(s) at the back & sides of the bridge module.
This image just made me wonder if the outboard hallways lead down to those 2 "red" doors.
I think even without all the red the bridge looks pretty awesome …
It does mean changing the bulbs.
I personally want this show to lead to TOS story-wise and character-wise. However, if they made it a reboot, then the story and characters aren't leading me to TOS.
If it were a reboot, then I suppose the Discovery could conceivably come upon the USS Farragut after the cloud creature attacked to find that all hands were lost -- including a young Lt. Kirk.
That's perfectly acceptable in a go-hog-wild reboot, but I'd be disappointed to know that these missions of the Discovery have no in-universe connection to the Star Trek TV shows I grew up with.
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I just prefer to go forward without the stories of the important characters being already written. I've known the fates of the TOS characters for twenty-plus years now. That story has largely been written.
I think even without all the red the bridge looks pretty awesome …
Photoshop or from the next episode? Either way, it looks better this way and more like the set was presented in "The Cage".
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