Kirk told Odona this in The Mark of Gideon. It's a good thing it was a sham situation, because according to my calculations they'd be running out right about now! 
Enough food for a crew of 430 for five years
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Geez, I couldn't deal with all the inconsistencies in that episode even when I first saw it in 1969 at 17. The first problem was no one detecting the difference in transporter coordinates, which I noticed on first watching. Then there's the question of the Gideonites not only having Kirk's complete medical history, but how they managed to get the exact specifications to the Enterprise to make a convincing replica. Then if their people are suffering from so much overpopulation they're squeezed together, how did they get the available space to even build the replica?
And you're worried about how many colored food cubes are aboard?
And you're worried about how many colored food cubes are aboard?
And you're worried about how many colored food cubes are aboard?
Ha, ha!
Well, it's not my biggest concern with the episode, naturally! But upon watching it again, I realized I'd always wondered just how long the food would last, and when I figured it out I was just surprised that we're right about at that point now!Here's another for your partial list: when Spock leaves the bridge to beam down to Gideon, he says "This won't take long.". After he leaves the bridge, Scotty comments, "Isn't that just about what Captain Kirk said before he left?". Well, that it is true, Kirk did say "This shouldn't take long.", but Scotty wasn't there when he said it, and neither was McCoy, who acts as if he too had heard it.
Well, we later learned in "Turnabout Intruder" that there must be microphones all over the ship, since Scott and Mcoy's corridor conversation implicating them for mutiny was replayed. Therefore, it must be possible for anyone to tap into anything being said anywhere on the ship at any time.
All the problems with this episode, and you're worried about how many microphones are on the ship? 
But seriously, yeah that's true...and Spock did that too in The Menagerie, Part I, complete with screen image!
But seriously, yeah that's true...and Spock did that too in The Menagerie, Part I, complete with screen image!
I guess it would tend to keep everyone honest. Kinda like nowadays: just assume you're being recorded.
Only thing is, it doesn't really seem to work out that way nowadays...
Only thing is, it doesn't really seem to work out that way nowadays...
All the problems with this episode, and you're worried about how many microphones are on the ship?
But seriously, yeah that's true...and Spock did that too in The Menagerie, Part I, complete with screen image!
And 'Wink of an Eye'.
And 5 * 430/2 = 1075 years of food for 2 (assuming no kids) or are my calculations wrong?
Hmmm.....either yours or mine. Mine assumed that the food would double with the population halved. I kept halving it 'till I got to two people. I was surprised it wasn't longer. Maybe I'm wrong. Math was my most average subject in school!
I don't recall that in Wink of an Eye...again, hmmm.
Kirk told Odona this in The Mark of Gideon. It's a good thing it was a sham situation, because according to my calculations they'd be running out right about now!
Your calculations must be wrong. Unless you know something about the expiration dates of the colored food cubes they consumed.
Mine assumed that the food would double with the population halved. I kept halving it 'till I got to two people. I was surprised it wasn't longer. Maybe I'm wrong. Math was my most average subject in school!
Oh my, that's so horribly wrong. This isn't even a tough math problem! Enough food for 430 people for 5 years is 2150 person-years of food. For two people, that's 1075 years of food, just as CommishSleer calculated.
Kirk told Odona this in The Mark of Gideon. It's a good thing it was a sham situation, because according to my calculations they'd be running out right about now!
Your calculations must be wrong. Unless you know something about the expiration dates of the colored food cubes they consumed.
Mine assumed that the food would double with the population halved. I kept halving it 'till I got to two people. I was surprised it wasn't longer. Maybe I'm wrong. Math was my most average subject in school!
Oh my, that's so horribly wrong. Enough food for 430 people for 5 years is 2150 person-years of food. For two people, that's 1075 years of food.
Anything that colorful has to last forever!
1075 years' worth seems more like what I'd have imagined it to be as a kid. But how did you arrive at this figure? My math teachers always made us show the work on our papers!
i want you to know this, that your answer is right, no they don't have much food for 430 years on the star ship for that long. if you look at the role playing game plue prints it don't show much room for food. what kind of food would you need for the ship?. this is what i am trying to work it out my self. right now you wood need to have about 600 MRE as a back up food. for about ?25 yrs?.
There's a scene where hyperaccelerated Kirk records a message to be found by Spock and McCoy. It's an act ender with a zoom in closeup on Kirk when Deela says "By the time they hear it, it will be too late."
When the message is replayed, there's the same zoom-in on Kirk's face.
1075 years' worth seems more like what I'd have imagined it to be as a kid. But how did you arrive at this figure? My math teachers always made us show the work on our papers!
I did show all my work. There's not much to calculate here.
As for storage, yeah, how and where do you store that much food? If I understand correctly, modern submarines go to sea with rooms filled with food, and they finally get some extra room as they consume it. I suppose Enterprise gets some resupply every few months, though, from starbases. At any rate, Kirk and Odona had plenty of food for themselves in the situation.
I often goof up stuff like this. I just figure that..well, let's say four of us decide to go camping for a week. We stock up on canned food. At the last minute, two of us back out of the trip. Now, it seems to me that the two of us who go now have two weeks worth of food. Now, if three of you back out and leave me to camp by myself (and the way this fun conversation is going I can understand why ), I'd now have food for four weeks..no?
), I'd now have food for four weeks..no?
Are you calling Captain Kirk a liar? :mock indignation:
Actually he probably is, just schmoozing up to the ladies.
I assume he's replicating the food and I assume the replicator supply stuff is more compact than real food and plans aren't canon.
If they had exact specifications, they should have just made actual starships, then used them to, y'know, relocate people off-world...
Klingons aren't the only ones always under surveillance!
(Fun fact: Starfleet was originally founded when NASA merged with the NSA... 
)Four people going camping for a week, with a week's worth of food for each of them, have four person-weeks worth of food. If the people who back out don't take back their food, then two people would still have four person-weeks worth of food, which would last them two weeks. Four person-weeks worth of food would last one person four weeks. Were you perhaps assuming that the missing crewmembers of the Enterprise took their food with them when they left?
I often goof up stuff like this. I just figure that..well, let's say four of us decide to go camping for a week. We stock up on canned food. At the last minute, two of us back out of the trip. Now, it seems to me that the two of us who go now have two weeks worth of food. Now, if three of you back out and leave me to camp by myself (and the way this fun conversation is going I can understand why
Obviously from your example, you haven't watched enough mad psycho killer movies. In those, he teams up with 3 other guys, then when they're in the backwoods, he kills them so he can keep their food for himself and be out there longer.
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