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Early Criticism: What’s Unfounded and What Isn’t

The MD would be in jail, the technology would continue, if an MD prescribed a medication that killed a patient, they would potentially jail the MD, they wouldn't ban the medication, in fact they would study it more
The Federation is very reactionary. I don't see them continuing.
 
By contrast, I'm just confused why it wasn't a yellow professor X hover chair.

Maybe this is deliberate and they want to use zippers, dollars, and wheelchairs to say, "A lot of planets have regressed technologically."
 
I definitely thought it was weird seeing the air bubbles when Sam was in the water, but she has a physical presence, so there would be air in her mouth even if she was doing nothing with it. Also maybe she just has lungs. We're always seeing shapeshifters and robots imitating humans more closely than they really need to.
maybe, but then you are posing several physics related questions...
 
The Federation is very reactionary. I don't see them continuing.
based on the unethical actions of one person? Crusher didn't even report her...as far as we know...and Picard even signed off on it...

honestly her actions weren't illegal, her protocol was wrong, but ultimately the decision was Worf, the pateint, he could have said no.
 
based on the unethical actions of one person? Crusher didn't even report her...as far as we know...and Picard even signed off on it...

honestly her actions weren't illegal, her protocol was wrong, but ultimately the decision was Worf, the pateint, he could have said no.
Yes, based on the unethical actions of one person.
 
By contrast, I'm just confused why it wasn't a yellow professor X hover chair.

Maybe this is deliberate and they want to use zippers, dollars, and wheelchairs to say, "A lot of planets have regressed technologically."
I don't see the issue. The wheel has been around for how long now? When is humanity going to grow up!??????
 
I don't see the issue. The wheel has been around for how long now? When is humanity going to grow up!??????
HIV used to be a death sentence, now it's a chronic condition like Diabetes that is manageable...we've come a long way as technology evolves, which was the point. If you want to shoehorn 21st ideals into a show about the future, there are more clever ways to do aside from direct comparison
 
HIV used to be a death sentence, now it's a chronic condition like Diabetes that is manageable...we've come a long way as technology evolves, which was the point. If you want to shoehorn 21st ideals into a show about the future, there are more clever ways to do aside from direct comparison
So, we no longer use wheels?

I'm not saying technology can't evolve but some things remain because they are simple, functional and serve a purpose. It's not "21st century ideals." But recognizing some things are ok to continue.

after Captain Maxwell slaughtered hundreds of Cardassians, why didn't they ban phasers and photon torpedoes?
Because, unfortunately, people still tried to kill them. Same with why cars are not banned.

But, the point is not one of just the technology but the irresponsible actions that led to its development. See the Doctor and Crel Mosset.
 
Having 32nd century humans and aliens talking like 21st century humans slang and vernacular takes me out of the story. Even when I was a kid I realized the characters on star trek talked differently. I realized it was because it was 300 years later and language had somewhat changed.



Earlier shows cut out a lot of modern slang abd swearing. The there was a reason for that. To show language had changed in 300 years as well as humans not feeling the need to swear any longer.

Even the jetsons a half hour kids cartoons realized how language changes over tome and made up a futuristic slang for the show.

Just laziness on the writers part. They cant write a futuristic show without writing like the way they talk themselves or the way their kids talk.
They cut out swearing mostly because of the censors. 90's trek characters speak more formally but they do not speak any differently to the way a modern human would. Also, none of the 90's series made any attempts to show linguist drift or introduced futuristic swear words, phrases or metaphors. So why should new trek be held to a higher standard and expectation?
 
They cut out swearing mostly because of the censors. 90's trek characters speak more formally but they do not speak any differently to the way a modern human would. Also, none of the 90's series made any attempts to show linguist drift or introduced futuristic swear words, phrases or metaphors. So why should new trek be held to a higher standard and expectation?
Because New Trek has been demonstrated to actively be trying to undermine Trek. In fact, every time you watch it a older Trek physical media is deleted, never to be seen again.
 
Please just let people who need wheelchairs today be invisible in Star Trek. They should just look like abled people, because it‘s teh futurez! And if you must call out the fact that in the 21st century they would have needed a wheelchair, make it a story point! Don‘t just let them be there, merely existing. There must be a reason for people in a wheelchair!

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I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm simply not out off by its use. It's contacts vs. glasses to me.
Contacts vs Glassess vs Magic Pill is a generally meaningless choice.

Wheel Chair vs Exoskeleton vs Implants is a choice that would massively effect quality of life and a persons ability to serve on a starship.


Please just let people who need wheelchairs today be invisible in Star Trek. They should just look like abled people, because it‘s teh futurez! And if you must call out the fact that in the 21st century they would have needed a wheelchair, make it a story point! Don‘t just let them be there, merely existing. There must be a reason for people in a wheelchair!

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Just like Geordi having a visor made blind people invisible?
 
When the show has already established someone getting a spine replaced and someone else getting a new leg, it kind of raises questions.
No, it doesn‘t do that for me. The point of Star Trek is not the accurate prediction of technological and medical advancements a thousand years from now. Nor is it to always adhere to something a previous episode has established. It‘s not real history.

Just like Geordi having a visor made blind people invisible?
Geordi is probably my favorite character from The Next Generation, but I gotta say, I always found it a little overblown how they would pat themselves on their backs for including a visually impaired person, but just straight up gave him sight. But yes, with Geordi they did want to show how the future makes it possible for blind people to see. That was the story point. Does that mean it always has to be that way in Trek? Do you always need to find a cool futuristic story reason to include a disabled human being? I think that‘s bullshit. And in my mind it‘s akin to saying “If you have to make your character queer, find a story reason for it!“ Because, as we all know, queer people can‘t just exist.
 
When the show has already established someone getting a spine replaced and someone else getting a new leg, it kind of raises questions.
It's just that you come to expect hi tech ( or at least some technobabble ) from Star Trek. And then they're like, hey check this out, a wheel.

Amazing, said someone once, maybe in ancient Mesopotamia. Just not lately.
 
The wheelchair should definitely have been a hover-chair with LED strips and all that. The best I ever saw was a miniature for a fantasy game - can't remember what it was, maybe a D&D module - of a dwarf in a steam-powered steampunk wheelchair. Best shit in the world.

As for Geordi, I really like that early episode where they briefly see through the VISOR on the bridge's viewscreen and it's very much a different way of perceiving the world, even if it basically never comes up again.

All this reminds me that the one and only thing I truly liked across all three seasons of Picard was the reporter in the very first episode applying holographic makeup, trying on lots of different styles instantaneously.
 
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