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Each time I see Revenge of the Sith...

I happened to enjoy ROTS throuroughly. TPM and AOTC had their flaws, and for what it's worth, they were respectable films also.
 
...It just seems to get worse and worse. Does anyone else get this reaction?

I don't know if I would call it getting worse, but I certainly don't have the same enthusiasm for it that I did after coming home from the theater opening night. Though to be honest, that happens with a lot of movies.

I mainly just skip to the good parts now instead of watching the whole movie.
 
Case-in-point: Padme's death. She needed to die so she'd be out of the picture for ANH, but there wasn't anything in the story up to that point that really motivated it. So she just...dies, for no reason. Because she has to. Oh, and the spits out the names "Luke" and "Leia," apropos of nothing, because the twins need names, after all.

I feel I must address this point; the death of Padme was necessarry, both in the context and in the long run.

Yes, she had to die, because it's made clear in the OT she is dead. But that's not the only reason. It was made clear early in the movie that Anakin feared losing Padme; his vision magnified that fear. This was his final nail in the coffin as it were to joining the dark side.

However, as Anakin descends deeper into the path of destruction, and he finally jumps the ship so to speak, he kills Padme because she rejects him, even though he was the one who caused said rejection.

And there is where we find a cruel irony: Anakin by turning to the dark side to prevent that vision from coming true, was actually fulfilling that vision himself. He made all this effort and betrayed his way of life and friends to save her, but in the end it was these very actions that damned her to her fate.

I can certainly appreciate that point that Lucas was making through use of irony. :)
 
...It just seems to get worse and worse. Does anyone else get this reaction?

I watched it twice and the second time, it was a bit more tolerable. But let's face it, the only good part was the very end, the creation of Darth Vader and Lucas had to ruin even that.
 
To my mind, it does get worse - as does Return of the Jedi - after you become familiar with the film you start to analyse it and I think Sith just falls apart in terms of the story making any real kind of sense. I still like Sith better than The Phantom Menace though, and I loathe Attack of the Clones - its absolutely dreadful - the whole film leading up to the battle is tedious, and then when the battle starts its so stupid and poorly thought out that its just as boring.
 
I saw it once, fell asleep a couple of times during the big CGI battles and never bothered to see it again. Well, maybe only the rifftraxed version ...
 
Which all goes back to when the entire Star Wars universe jumped the shark - Return of the Jedi. No one ever wants to admit it but Lucas never could write.
I'll admit it. He can't write, or direct. He's a tech person, and should have stayed on that side of the prequels. He built his "empire" from a tech perspective - why, for example, does ILM do special effects works for other people's movies instead of churning out Lucas exclusive films? Because other than SW when he tried putting out films he was in complete control of, he embarrassed himself, that's why.

Problem is, Lucas fell for the myth fans have built up around him over the years. Instead of a great collaborative effort, the OT was suddenly the result of Lucas' "vision" (sort of like TOS did for Roddenberry). With the prequels, we can see the result of the uncompromising level of control Lucas was given at the expense of everybody else involved with the OT.

The situation with Lucas writing and directing all the prequels would be like if Bill Gates suddenly decided that since he created MS that he should be writing and doing art for all of the X-Box games released from now on. :eek:
 
I think the third movie was too rushed. Preferably I would have skipped TPM and spread RotS over two movies. There just isn't enough story in TPM, and too much in RotS to do it any justice.
 
The prequels are barely movies - but they are beautiful to look at, IMAO.
Agreed!:lol: I think that's why most of the time i watch it with the sound almost off while i do assignments.


the thing that IMO makes ROTS go from mediocre to awful (story-wise) is the total idiocy of Anakin's turn to the dark side. this is something that should have been built up over AOTC and ROTS and yet even when Anakin turns to the dark side it is for a sort of altruistic reason (i.e. to save padme) but then later on it seems like when you "turn" to the dark side you all of a sudden want to kill your master and take over the universe.... ah whatever.
 
The prequels are barely movies - but they are beautiful to look at, IMAO.
Agreed!:lol: I think that's why most of the time i watch it with the sound almost off while i do assignments.
I'd like a "no dialogue" version the films, I'd watch those. All the sound effects and music, but no monologues about how much characters hate sand.


I think you've just given me an idea for a bootleg edit - make it all black and white, add scratches and silent movie dialog frames!
 
...It just seems to get worse and worse. Does anyone else get this reaction?

So stop watching it.


I'm just trying to discuss my reaction to the flaws in the movie. can we please stop it with the obvious wiseacre responses?

Gee, I doubt it.

I mean, your thread isn't really anything new around here. It's more typical SW prequel bashing.

Here's my non-wise ass response for you: stop watching it or keep watching it, but don't post here to try and goad people into arguments about a movie you don't like.

OR...offer constructive criticism when you do post, i.e., "ROTS isn't aging well in my opinion because..."

Cap
 
Gee, I doubt it.

I mean, your thread isn't really anything new around here. It's more typical SW prequel bashing.

Here's my non-wise ass response for you: stop watching it or keep watching it, but don't post here to try and goad people into arguments about a movie you don't like.

OR...offer constructive criticism when you do post, i.e., "ROTS isn't aging well in my opinion because..."
Cap

I've noticed there are certain people on this board who always seem to want claim they know what other people's intentions are.

Doubt it all you want but look at the posts in this thread and you'll see that ,aside from your posts, pretty much everyone else participating in the discussion is actually just talking about their impressions of the film, which one(s) they prefer and what they feel the flaws are if any. I don't see anybody "goading" others into anything.

Why is there always somebody who takes it upon themselves to make a big deal about this sort of thing? Who cares? I call it critique you call it "bashing" either way it's still just a movie - one that i felt like discussing with fellow sci-fi fans after recently watching it again.

Just put the righteous indignation at the thread title under the rug and talk about the film if you want but don't come pointing "holier than thou" fingers with claims of inside knowledge into my "reasons" for posting trying to make a scandal out of nothing.

On with the discussion.
 
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