DS9 on blu ray?

[Admiral Bear]

For MOST people in the UK, Netflix's recommended HD speed of 5 mbps is available. You just have to pay for it.

And if you're not willing or unable to pay for it, then you're probably not going to pay for the discs anyway.

ENOUGH OF THIS TURGID BASH WANKERY!

 

[Dac]

^Hey, I'm sitting pretty on 150mbs down. I'll stream 4k if you want :P

As some further explanation of TNG's poor sales, in the UK the SyFy channel aired Seasons 1-5 in HD mere weeks after it was released on Blu ray here. Hell, I'm pretty sure Season 2 may have even aired before the set came out. I still bought them because I actually liked the special features, wanted to support it and ensure DS9 in HD and what have you, but unfortunately that seems to be all for nothing at this point.

...all of that said though, its still not stopping at least 3 networks I can think of here in the UK airing Trek every single day, so I guess someone is watching them on the telly.

 

[Beta-Z]

Thanks a lot, Paramount.de!!
So, AGT got released in Germany recently.
Another nail into the coffin of the HD project, as they released it with the wrong title!!!!!
It was released as "Alle guten Dinge" which is a word-by-word translation of the original title.
That would be ok, if the final TNG episode wasn't known here by "Gestern, Heute, Morgen" ("Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow")!!

So, the title by which it will be listed on Amazon etc. is completly wrong!
Paramount.de, you really know, how to boycott your own products, you must really HATE Star Trek, congrats!
So CBS/Paramount execs, if sales numbers were below your expectations, for a large point of the whole TNG-HD-release you just have to look into a mirror to see the reason why!
THANK YOU!

 

[MacLeod]

The big problem with streaming is you need an Internet connection capable of streaming, which many of us don't all of the time. The infrastructure isn't there (yet) to fully replace physical media in many places.

That was an argument 10 years ago. It isn't anymore.

For MOST people in the UK and US, Netflix's recommended HD speed of 5 mbps is available. You just have to pay for it.

Operative word being MOST not ALL. I've recieved no speed increase since 2006 when my exchange was enabled for ASDLMax. I suspect if i had to guess at my average speed it would be 2-3Mbps. Getting anywhere from 0.3-7Mbps depending on time of day.

At the end of the 2017 when BDUK aims to have 95% coverage of the UK for superfast broadband it might not be an argument. But today it is still a valid argument that some can barely steam SD never mind HD. Even the Universal Service commitment of 2Mbps will still leave some in the UK with a connection that fails to support HD streaming.

 

[Squiggy]

The big problem with streaming is you need an Internet connection capable of streaming, which many of us don't all of the time. The infrastructure isn't there (yet) to fully replace physical media in many places.

That was an argument 10 years ago. It isn't anymore.

For MOST people in the UK and US, Netflix's recommended HD speed of 5 mbps is available. You just have to pay for it.

Operative word being MOST not ALL.

Yes, that's why I used that. You're never going to have 100% penetration. Heh.

I've recieved no speed increase since 2006 when my exchange was enabled for ASDLMax. I suspect if i had to guess at my average speed it would be 2-3Mbps. Getting anywhere from 0.3-7Mbps depending on time of day.

You're in the minority. There are still people who never bought a DVD player...but they're having a hard time finding new VHS tapes, but that didn't stop the industry from dumping the medium like it was yesterday's news.

Technology doesn't wait for those who can't catch up with it.

At the end of the 2017 when BDUK aims to have 95% coverage of the UK for superfast broadband it might not be an argument.

80% isn't an argument but 95% is? Where's the threshold? 85? 90?

When 8 out of 10 people can do something you don't wait until the other 2 can catch up.

But today it is still a valid argument that some can barely steam SD never mind HD.

Never said everyone can do it. Paramount doesn't now nor will it ever care about a couple of people in some misty moor.

Even the Universal Service commitment of 2Mbps will still leave some in the UK with a connection that fails to support HD streaming.

Yes. Sucks to be those people.

 

[Beta-Z]

They've missed so many obvious opportunitys to promote their HD remastering project.
First: NO advertising at all, in ANY country!
Leaving ALL this to trekcore just CAN'T be the way to promote the project, you money-saving ass~oles!
This makes me as TNG fan ashamed for all the persons, who put their efford and heart blood into the remastering project! You CBS/Paramount FUCK them all right through their eyes!
Second: The "before/after" comparison shots on the back of the TNG box sets were a desaster from the get go! I've NEVER noticed ANY difference between those little pikkies, did either of you? I assume no. So WHY keep those?
If i'm a casual buyer and hold the set in my hand and look at the backcover, seeing the comparison shot and see absolutly NO difference in the before/after shot ... what would you think my decision would be to buy it or not? If there's NO difference to make out?! Well, think hard ...
Third: why not selling "must air commecials" for the BD-sets with the new HD TV rights?
So that every network who airs TNG in HD must air an 30sec commercial with comparison shots SD/HD and the claim "available to buy on Blu-ray now!"???
What a wasted opportunity!!!
Fourth: why not placing the TNG-BDs on a special shelf for some time in the stores, just a few weeks? OK, that costs, but maybe more people would have been at least aware of it and could have spread the word. (!)
Fifth: why releasing the single movie discs without any special advertising? Or (like in Germany) only at supermarkets and then even under a wrong (not known) title, like it happened with AGT?!

I really don't know what kind of persons are working in the CBS/Paramount home department in the PR compartment, but - by MY judgement - they are overpaid as they are NOT doing their job AT ALL! Fail as fail can be! Ridiculous!

 

[Squiggy]

Third: why not selling "must air commecials" for the BD-sets with the new HD TV rights?
So that every network who airs TNG in HD must air an 30sec commercial...

So...no one?

 

[Lance]

^Hey, I'm sitting pretty on 150mbs down. I'll stream 4k if you want

As some further explanation of TNG's poor sales, in the UK the SyFy channel aired Seasons 1-5 in HD mere weeks after it was released on Blu ray here. Hell, I'm pretty sure Season 2 may have even aired before the set came out. I still bought them because I actually liked the special features, wanted to support it and ensure DS9 in HD and what have you, but unfortunately that seems to be all for nothing at this point.

...all of that said though, its still not stopping at least 3 networks I can think of here in the UK airing Trek every single day, so I guess someone is watching them on the telly.

Yeah, this is the other thing. You've got HD television broadcasts (in some regions like the UK), and you've got streaming of the same HD product; plus add to that the diversifying of the range with the single-release BDs (with exclusive special features not found in the season sets), and for icing on the cake there was a full budget re-release of the entire series on plain old DVD around the time season two came out on BD, meaning anybody who hadn't yet caught up with buying TNG and might have been unable to find out much about the visual difference might have been tempted to just throw their oar in and buy the regular DVD sets. So yeah, on many fronts TNG on blu ray was fighting a battle against itself.

Calling all of this a 'comedy of errors' on the part of the CBS/Paramount is doing a dis-service to comedy. It was a complete fail, is what it was.

 

[SPCTRE]

Thanks a lot, Paramount.de!!
So, AGT got released in Germany recently.
Another nail into the coffin of the HD project, as they released it with the wrong title!!!!!
It was released as "Alle guten Dinge" which is a word-by-word translation of the original title.
That would be ok, if the final TNG episode wasn't known here by "Gestern, Heute, Morgen" ("Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow")!!

So, the title by which it will be listed on Amazon etc. is completly wrong!

What, really? I mean, really? "Alle guten Dinge"? Holy shit That sounds like a bad joke

Really glad I never buy Blu-rays in this country.

 

[Praetorian]

Third: why not selling "must air commecials" for the BD-sets with the new HD TV rights?
So that every network who airs TNG in HD must air an 30sec commercial...

So...no one?

It aired in HD in the UK, and perhaps in other places as well.

 

[MacLeod]

That was an argument 10 years ago. It isn't anymore.

For MOST people in the UK and US, Netflix's recommended HD speed of 5 mbps is available. You just have to pay for it.

Operative word being MOST not ALL.

Yes, that's why I used that. You're never going to have 100% penetration. Heh.


You're in the minority. There are still people who never bought a DVD player...but they're having a hard time finding new VHS tapes, but that didn't stop the industry from dumping the medium like it was yesterday's news.

Technology doesn't wait for those who can't catch up with it.


80% isn't an argument but 95% is? Where's the threshold? 85? 90?

When 8 out of 10 people can do something you don't wait until the other 2 can catch up.

80% coverage, doesn't mean 8 out of 10. It simple means that it is availble in 80% of the country, that 80% might only serve 60% of the population.

 

[DragonQ]

Operative word being MOST not ALL.

Yes, that's why I used that. You're never going to have 100% penetration. Heh.


You're in the minority. There are still people who never bought a DVD player...but they're having a hard time finding new VHS tapes, but that didn't stop the industry from dumping the medium like it was yesterday's news.

Technology doesn't wait for those who can't catch up with it.


80% isn't an argument but 95% is? Where's the threshold? 85? 90?

When 8 out of 10 people can do something you don't wait until the other 2 can catch up.

80% coverage, doesn't mean 8 out of 10. It simple means that it is availble in 80% of the country, that 80% might only serve 60% of the population.

But in reality that 80% will cover maybe 95% of the population since it includes all densely populated areas.

 

[MacLeod]

Perhaps, but it is easy to say everything is great when your speeds are faster than 80%+ of the country, yet if you are the flip side of that and you are slower than 80%+ the picture doesn't look as rosey.

Sure the average speed for a country might be 13Mbps but that will include people well in excess of that and well below that. But we are starting to diverage from the thread topic. There is no reason why streaming and physical media can not work side by side. So those that want and are able to stream can do so, and those that want to own a physical copy regardless of whther they can stream or not can do so. It shouldn't be an either or.

 

[Trek Survivor]

...all of that said though, its still not stopping at least 3 networks I can think of here in the UK airing Trek every single day, so I guess someone is watching them on the telly.

You're not wrong, five by my count:
SyFy (TNG, VOY, DS9)
Sky Atlantic (ENT)
Pick TV (ENT)
CBS Action (TNG, TOS)
Horror Channel (really!!) - Early TNG

 

[Squiggy]

There is no reason why streaming and physical media can not work side by side.

How about the people who pay to put stuff on DVD don't want to pay for that anymore?

 

[SPCTRE]

...all of that said though, its still not stopping at least 3 networks I can think of here in the UK airing Trek every single day, so I guess someone is watching them on the telly.

You're not wrong, five by my count:
SyFy (TNG, VOY, DS9)
Sky Atlantic (ENT)
Pick TV (ENT)
CBS Action (TNG, TOS)
Horror Channel (really!!) - Early TNG

I think Trek is only on two channels at the moment in Germany, one of which is pay-TV only (SyFy). Tele5 has TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT. SyFy only has TNG & ENT (both HD) currently.

 

[BillJ]

Third: why not selling "must air commecials" for the BD-sets with the new HD TV rights?
So that every network who airs TNG in HD must air an 30sec commercial...

So...no one?

It aired in HD in the UK, and perhaps in other places as well.

The only place TNG airs here in the United States is on BBC America (a digital tier cable network). The first two HD seasons have finally made it to air but far behind their Blu-ray releases.

 

[dub]

I just did a search on the SyFy website (US), and this was the result. It's all at once humorous, ironic and sad:

 

[Squiggy]

So...no one?

It aired in HD in the UK, and perhaps in other places as well.

The only place TNG airs here in the United States is on BBC America (a digital tier cable network). The first two HD seasons have finally made it to air but far behind their Blu-ray releases.

I think they're adding the HD into their rotation as they get to that season with their marathon Tuesday night airings.

Season 1 aired in HD last summer, then seasons 2-7 in their horrid full screen SD.

Then as the series reset a few months ago, their aired seasons 1 and 2 in HD, 3+ will be in SD.

In a few months I would imagine they'll add S3 and so on as their burn through their SD inventory.

 

[MacLeod]

...all of that said though, its still not stopping at least 3 networks I can think of here in the UK airing Trek every single day, so I guess someone is watching them on the telly.

You're not wrong, five by my count:
SyFy (TNG, VOY, DS9)
Sky Atlantic (ENT)
Pick TV (ENT)
CBS Action (TNG, TOS)
Horror Channel (really!!) - Early TNG

Well DSN is currently not airing in the UK, though it did air last year.