DS9 on blu ray?
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See, *this* I do find a more compelling argument for redoing them. But at the end of the day it probably comes down to whether Paramount would see the overall revenue as being worth the investment. If they need to sink more money into it than they're likely to get out of it, chances are they'll say "thanks but no thanks".
I'd love to be proven wrong.
A remastering would be the gift that keeps giving.
CBS/Paramount (both are Viacom companies) would then be able to syndicate it, repackage it, stream it, create Blu-Ray disks etc. etc. in perpetuity. This DS9 could live on for many, many years. That is until the year 2xxx where there will be a gut wrenching 3D, VR, liver jarring immersive Sensurround re-remastered version.
There's about four or five years between TOS and TNG remastering projects isn't there? So I guess it's just a question of whether or not Blu ray will still be around, and sales are worth CBS' while. Personally as someone who's entertainment (be it music, TV or film) revolves around having a physical copy for the best level of audio/video quality, I hope it does.
I can't see them not doing Deep Space Nine, and indeed Voyager, given enough time and an increase in High Definition content required by stations. Complete TNG-R has only just reached the market in that format. Needs to bought up and reach countless screens, before they outlay some spare funds toward DS9-R.
I can't see them not doing Deep Space Nine, and indeed Voyager, given enough time and an increase in High Definition content required by stations. Complete TNG-R has only just reached the market in that format. Needs to bought up and reach countless screens, before they outlay some spare funds toward DS9-R.
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There's. No. Demand.
^ This.
DS9 and VOY have got their fanbase, but I am not convinced they have the 'cultural niche' of TOS and TNG among the casual buyers (which of course encompasses HD television broadcasts). For a good portion of the audience they remain a case of ever diminishing returns. The only reason ENT made it to Blu Ray was because it was already 99% there, they literally had to do almost nothing to it. DS9 and VOY would be bigger investments, perhaps with lesser reward in the long term.If CBS have got numbers that tell them different then, sure, they'll go ahead. I really hope they do, but I'm not hopeful they will.
No, all of the Star Trek TV shows were shot on 35 mm film (except for the last series of Enterprise, which was shot on HD video). The problem with Voyager and DS9 is the CGI usage. We don't know what proportion of the original CGI digital elements (a) still exist, and (b) are usable for HD. If a significant proportion needs to be remade from scratch, that would be very expensive. Voyager uses CGI heavily right from the start and DS9 has Odo...
Congratulations to us on 100 pages of talking in circles.
I know it's great isn't it. I'm going to start copying and pasting my posts from up-thread soon.
It shouldn't count as 100 pages if there's only been 15 original responses.
^ This.
If CBS have got numbers that tell them different then, sure, they'll go ahead. I really hope they do, but I'm not hopeful they will.
The real question is what percentage of a market will buy a product. Sure TNG was more popular in the ratings, but does that automatically mean more people will buy the BR? Or to put it another way lets say 33% of TNG's audiance buys the BR great. But what if 50% of DSN's smaller audiance buys the BR? You may end up shifting a similar number. Same goes for VOY.
Sure DSN/VOY might have a smaller return than TNG, but what will return will they have in the future if they remain SD. As fewer and fewer channels want SD content?
I think you've hit the nail on the head without actually realizing it. No one here in the States has wanted to broadcast Deep Space Nine or Voyager for a very long time. Which is by far your biggest market for these shows. Heck, even TNG only airs on BBC America (a digital tier cable channel that you have to pay a premium for). TOS only airs on MeTV, a nostalgia driven network.
There hasn't been a big market for Star Trek for a very long time. What about upgrading it to HD is going to change that?
LOL. That's blatantly untrue and doubly ironic coming from you since you purposely mangled a quote from me to begin with and I was copying your bad behavior.
It's sad to see the people on this thread pile on as to how unwatchable, unpopular and unwanted this show was past, present and future. Perhaps the MODS should close this thread..........but that is precisely what the naysayers here really wish to accomplish anyway.
Anytime someone has an argument as to why they should preserve DS9 the usual suspects pile on how that is unreasonable (e.g., streaming, CGI etc.). Good Job guys
If that's all you've gotten out of the discussion, I feel sad for you.
I'd love to see Deep Space Nine and Voyager get the same HD treatment as TNG got. I think they'd both be gorgeous. But am I suppose to lie about how likely I think such a project is?
Don't you mean there hasn't been a big market in the US?,
The same might not hold true for other countries, where CBS can sell TV/streaming rights. I'm not saying there is a big market in the UK but there might be a bigger demand for it than other countries.
For example in the UK, at least one ST show, if not two or three, is on everyday with multiple networks airing them. Treu DSN isn't currently re-running in the UK but it did complete a re-run last year and several episode aired over Christmas on Sy-fy (UK).
Which is exactly what I said.
But are the broadcast rights in those countries anywhere near as lucrative as they are in the US?
I'm sure CBS has a department that is solely there to wring money out of properties that are no longer in first-run. Whether it be Star Trek or MASH or I Love Lucy or Gilligan's Island or The Brady Bunch or other properties they own.
It would be insane to think they haven't crunched all the numbers where Deep Space Nine was concerned. Including foreign distribution. I would think they've touched base with foreign distributors to get a feel for what they are willing to pay to air HD versions of these shows vs. SD.
In the here and now, HD versions of DS9 and VOY likely don't make economic sense for CBS. I'm sure they've calculated every single realistic revenue source available for such a project.
You never say never. But as time passes these shows will recede from the public's consciousness and the likelyhood of a project like TNG will become less and less.
All, in my opinion.
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